Thomas Jefferson Papers

Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Mann Randolph, 24 November 1822

To Thomas Mann Randolph

Monticello Nov. 24. 22.

Dear Sir

I certainly1 had not the most distant thought of bearing on any controverted question, when, in my letter to mr Campbell, I used the unweighed expression of ‘papers belonging to the records of the council.’ but my meaning will be best explained by stating the practice of the time to which that letter referred. all letters and official papers2 on Executive business were regularly3 addressed to myself, while governor,4 with rare exceptions. when casually however to any member of the council, he delivered them to me, to be brought on in the order which the respective urgencies of the cases before the Executive might in my judgment require.5 when done with, these papers were left with the clerk of the council to be filed among the records of the executive department confided to his care and keeping. but I exercised my own judgment whether a paper was official and belonged to the executive records, or private and to be retained among my own papers. I probably recieved a letter or report from Colo Campbell of the battle of King’s mountain. if I did (for I do not remember) considering it as official, and belonging to the executive records, I consigned it to them, and thus, not now in possession of it, I could not quote it to Mr Campbell.

With respect to the request of permission to publish that letter, altho’ always unwilling to take any part in controversies of any kind, or to be brought into question before6 the public, yet if my testimony of the general impression of the day can have any weight, Colo Campbell’s merit,7 and my high sense of it entitles him to that testimony from me, which I gave without any sentiment but of the highest respect and veneration for Govr Shelby,8 whose letters have been intended for the bosom of a friend, and not for the public.

The family is well.9 I congratulate you on the approach of your retirement to it’s bosom, and the exchange of official troubles and jealousies10 for family love, peace11 and comfort; and I salute you with cordial affection and respect.

Th: Jefferson

RC (DLC); addressed: “Governor Randolph Richmond”; franked; postmarked Charlottesville, 26 Nov.; endorsed by Randolph. Dft (DLC); on verso of bottom half of reused address cover of John Barnes to TJ, 18 Sept. 1821.

TJ’s extant correspondence with William Campbell contains no report on the Battle of King’s Mountain (PTJ description begins Julian P. Boyd, Charles T. Cullen, John Catanzariti, Barbara B. Oberg, James P. McClure, and others, eds., The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, 1950– , 45 vols. description ends , 3:479, 517–8, 654–5, 4:84, 15:588–9).

On 20 Dec. 1822 Virginia J. Randolph (Trist) wrote from Monticello to Nicholas P. Trist describing the preparations that TJ had been making for her father’s retirement there: “Do not resume your law studies too soon; I hope when you have Grand-Papa to converse with on the subject, it will be less irksome & more profitable to you. he intends to give you for a study, the Pavillion corresponding to Papa’s which is now completed and ready to receive him when he returns, which we are in daily expectation of” (RC in DLC: NPT). Monticello’s North Pavilion was set aside for Thomas Mann Randolph’s (“Papa’s”) use, while the South Pavilion was intended for Trist.

1Word interlined in Dft.

2Preceding three words interlined in Dft.

3Word interlined in Dft.

4Preceding two words interlined in Dft.

5Reworked in Dft from “of the exve business required.”

6RC: “befor.” Dft: “before.”

7Word interlined in Dft in place of “memory is entitled.”

8Remainder of sentence interlined in Dft.

9In Dft TJ here canceled “my arm is doing well.”

10Preceding three words interlined in Dft in place of “drudgery & contest.”

11Word added in margin of Dft.

Index Entries

  • Campbell, John (ca.1788–1866); and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Campbell, William (1745–81); Revolutionary War service of search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Correspondence; publication of papers search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Public Service; as governor of Va. search
  • Kings Mountain, Battle of (1780); and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Monticello (TJ’s Albemarle Co. estate); North Pavilion search
  • Monticello (TJ’s Albemarle Co. estate); South Pavilion search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); and Monticello’s North Pavilion search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); and Va. Council of State search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); as governor of Va. search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); letters to search
  • Revolutionary War; and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Shelby, Isaac; and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Trist, Nicholas Philip; and legal education search
  • Trist, Nicholas Philip; and Monticello’s South Pavilion search
  • Trist, Nicholas Philip; correspondence with V. J. R. Trist search
  • Trist, Virginia Jefferson Randolph (TJ’s granddaughter); correspondence with N. P. Trist search
  • Virginia; Council of State search
  • Virginia; governor search