Thomas Jefferson Papers

Thomas Mann Randolph to Thomas Jefferson, 21 November 1822

From Thomas Mann Randolph

Richmond November 21. 1822

Dear Sir,

I have just received a letter from Mr John Campbell Councillor of State of Virginia inclosing a copy of one from you to him of the 10th inst. on the subject of the late endeavour in the Western States to degrade the memory of Campbell of Kings mountain, one of the heroes of the revolution. As I could not undertake to advise him either to publish or to abstain from publishing your letter, along with other documents collected by him with the view to repell the attack on the reputation of his deceased Kinsman, I could not refuse, at his request, to ask your permission for him to use the letter in that way. After that, my own reputation at this most critical juncture of circumstances important to me in the most serious and most lasting degree, requires that I should beg of you to give some explanation of this sentence in your letter to the Councillor, now under my eyes in a copy certified by himself. “I have no papers on this subject in my possession, all such received at that day having belonged to the records of the Council.” This is enjoyed as a great triumph over me, for the Council is thereby said to be acknowledged as a Body distinct from, and independent of the Governour, while I have contended that they formed together the Executive Department, and that the Governour was the sole organ of communication with that department, untill duly pronounced by a competent authority to be incapable or absent from the Government; unless in the case where he chose to acknowledge the disability himself. I had prevailed so far as to have a majority of the Councillors at last willing to acknowledge that the Governour had a right to inspect their journal and even to see that the entries in it accurately recorded the substance of the advice upon which he was about to act, both of which were stoutly denied by most of them for a long time. The term records of the Executive Department is now familiar to them and used by themselves instead of records of the Executive Council, allthough papers are yet addressed to them alone, under that title, by a few who have warmly taken their side. Yet those persons, none of them, support their pretension to the right of meeting whenever the Governour is out of view, and of revising, rescinding, abrogating and annulling whatever may have been advised at the last meeting when he was present; even allthough he may have given the proper instructions for the execution thereof in the mean time. The right to give1 the casting vote upon an equal division, I never have abandoned, allthough in complaisance to them I have allways consented to receive a vote of one of them changed to the contrary side, or to wait the arrival of another Councillor sent for on the occasion, or even to allow a short adjournment of the question to give time for a fuller meeting. The words used by you “at that day” imply, it is said, that papers are retained by the Governor at this day which belonged to the Council as distinct from him at a former period. Now I have kept none but those relating to certain cases of appointment of Tobacco Inspectors, to the fullfillment of the Charters of Turnpike Companies, the appointment of Militi[a] officers in concurrence with the County Courts, matters of the Board of Public Works and the Literary fund, and all those to be turned over to my successor, or lodged with the clerks of the different Boards when I had done with them. I have indeed contended that letters addressed to the Governor out of Council, ought properly to be returned to him after they were recorded in the letter Books of the Executive Department, allthough they2 treated of public matters only. All letters whatsoever with the words “Council” or “Executive”3 superscribed, and others with whatever superscription, which did not come by mail, but by private hand, and were declared to be on public business by the bearer, authorized by the Writer to say so, or were laid on the table of the Council Chamber as public communication, I have ever admitted to be public, and liable to be opened without impropriety. I have stoutly declared that I would impeach the honour to the last extremity of any member of the Executive Body who should violate the sanctity4 of private Correspondence, unless the case came within the above exceptions and yet the matter was not of a public nature, which might lead to an excusable mistake. It may be absurd for creatures ready to fall into dust, and of whom in a few years, months, or days perhaps, not a trace will remain, to be so pertinacious; but the Commonwealth is lasting, and whatever is believed to concern it materially ought to be thought about and spoken of to the last breath. The weight of your opinion would silence either side at once. For my own part I could flee to the grave with determined mind, to escape from such hatefull sophistry & such unprincipled conduct and opinions as I have been compelled so long to witness and to hear.   With unfeigned veneration and heartfelt desire for your long life & continued happiness your &C

Th M Randolph

RC (DLC); edge trimmed; endorsed by TJ as received 24 Nov. 1822, but recorded in SJL as received a day earlier. RC (DLC); address cover only; with Dft of TJ to Samuel H. Smith, 2 Aug. 1823, on verso; addressed: “Thomas Jefferson Monticello”; franked; postmarked Richmond, 21 Nov.

1Unmatched single quotation mark preceding this word editorially omitted.

2Manuscript: “they they.”

3Omitted opening quotation mark preceding this word editorially supplied.

4Manuscript: “santity.”

Index Entries

  • Campbell, John (ca.1788–1866); and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Campbell, John (ca.1788–1866); as member of Va. Council of State search
  • Campbell, William (1745–81); Revolutionary War service of search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Correspondence; publication of papers search
  • Kings Mountain, Battle of (1780); and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Literary Fund; and governor of Va. search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); and Va. Council of State search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); as governor of Va. search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); letters from search
  • Revolutionary War; and legacy of W. Campbell search
  • Virginia; Board of Public Works search
  • Virginia; Council of State search
  • Virginia; governor search