Thomas Jefferson Papers

Chiles Terrell to Thomas Jefferson, 9 October 1822

From Chiles Terrell

Richmond; Oct 9th 1822

Dear Sir,

I receivd your favour of the 30th Ulto, in reply to my communication, on the difference, between lines due East and West, and parallels of Latitude, commencing from the same point;—The apprehension of intruding upon your quiet & Retirement, made me hesitate, in sending you the demonstration, which I forwarded; and the same apprehension, confirmed, by the tenor of a part of your letter, determined me, to offer nothing farther on the subject; But upon reflection, I have thought it might be proper, to make a few remarks, by way of reply, knowing, that if I trespass in so doing, it will be without [inj]ury to you, and with impunity to myself.—[Y]ou think the question, depends on definitions, and that it is rather philological than Mathematical.—Grant, that it does depend on definitions, and that it may be philological as well as mathematical.—The result is the same. The Cardinal points, of East and West, have each a precise definition, in which Astronomers, Geographers, and Surveyors essentially concur,—admitting it to be perfect. According to these definitions, the lines due East and due West, (whether Curve or direct.) of any place, or rather point, on the Earth, between the Equator and the poles, will leave the Meridian of that point, (which you appropriately call the Meridian of departure) at right angles. This point is necessarily supposed to be in the zenith, or to speak more precisely, immediately under it, on the top of the upper hemisphere of the Earth. The parallel of Latitude passing through this point, will leave the same meridian, at acute angles towards the nearest pole, and hence it cannot coincide with the lines due East and West, commencing from that point. Therefore mathematically and philologically, we should not say, in the words of the Treaty,—“Thence (from the middle of Connecticut River) due west on the parallel of 45°—North,” but, Thence, westerly on the said parallel.—

Mr Campbell, professor of mathematics in Wm & Mary, College, in a friendly letter, says,1 that he Concurs with me, in every thing, except that part of the theory, relating to Sailing, and the interpretation of the words of the Treaty, quoted above. He has calculated the deviation of the parallel of 45° from the due East or West line, for the distance of one mile, and adopted a method of describing a parallel on Land, and of cor[rec]ting the deviation2 of the parallels of Latitude from [the?] lines due East and West, which he proposes shortly to publish. But, from what he admits, I know, that he can offer nothing in opposition, except that which is supported, either3 by prescription or authority, founded upon a want of precision, and if allowed at all, to be allowed only through Courtesy.

If you think it will answer an useful or agreeable purpose, and if it should4 be consistent with your sense of propriety, I should be pleased for you to offer this Curious and interesting subject, to the Consideration of the Emperor Alexander, and the Grand Turk, in order that we may learn their opinions, or the result of their investigations of it.

However, I leave this, as all things else, entirely with you, and will offer no other apology for this communication, than, that the freedom with which it is written, is connected with the highest respect for your Taste, Judgment, & Character. And were I to particularize on these points, I might imitate a part of the dedication, written a hundred years ago, to the Duke of Chandos by Keill: Who says, “You, My Lord, are the publick and standing mark of all men’s admiration, the beautiful pattern, which all desire to imitate, tho’ few can hope to equal. In publick affairs, what statesman more able? In domestical management, what private man more expert? In the Constant stating and [exact keep]ing5 of accompts, no Body more providen[t. No] Body more frugal. In expences, no Body more liberal: In Largesses, no Body so Magnificent.6 To which, on the present occasion, he would add, In taste, no Body more exquisite.

yrs Sincerely.—

Chiles Terrell

N.B. I presume the State lines were correctly delineated. I never doubted the practicability of tracing parallels of latitude. I think it would be an improvement, in the maps of particular Countries, or States, to have a small space in each margin, outside of the numbers which express the Latitudes, for dots or marks to express the due East and West Courses of the intersecting points of the parallels of Latitude, with the principal meridian.

RC (DLC); torn at seal; addressed: “Thomas Jefferson Esqr Monticello Albemarle”; franked; postmarked Richmond, 11 Oct.; endorsed by TJ as received 15 Oct. 1822 and so recorded in SJL.

your favour of the 30th ulto: TJ to Terrell, 25 Sept. 1822. Terrell paraphrases a portion of the fifth article of the 24 Dec. 1814 treaty of Ghent (Miller, Treaties description begins Hunter Miller, ed., Treaties and other International Acts of the United States of America, 1931–48, 8 vols. description ends , 2:578).

Writing to Terrell on 6 Oct. 1822 from Williamsburg, Ferdinand S. campbell advised him that he would not write to the Richmond Enquirer until they could confer during Campbell’s imminent visit to Richmond, meanwhile agreeing with him “in every thing but your Theory of Sailing and yr Interpretation of the Words in the Treaty of Peace relatively to the expression Thence (from the Middle of Connecticut River) due West on the parallel of 45.°.” Campbell observed that by the phrase “due West on a Parallel of Lat.,” mathematicians “speak merely in reference to the Rhumbs and do not pretend Such Line is due West in relation to the place of the commencement of such Motion but they Speak of the place merely as a point of Beginning &c as I shall make fully to appear.” He added that he had developed his own improved method “of describing a parallel of Latitude on Land and of computing the actual Deviation &c.” Campbell continued, “In Lat 45.° this Deviation is exactly 8 Inches towards the Eq: for a Common Mile—and the Deviation for the same Distance in any other Latitude is as the amt of sd Lat I am a little afraid as the Demonstration is Algebraical that it may be difficult to introduce it in a Newspaper, but I have written the Words plus and Minus at length, and as the Calculus is Short I may perhaps be mistaken—If present I Know I could easily alter whatever might be found difficult to print: and there is another Reason why I have not heretofore written to Mr Ritchie my Views of this Curious & interesting Subject” (RC in Vi: RG 57, Applications for Position of Principal Engineer; addressed: “Chiles Terrell Esquire Richmond”; stamped; inconsistently postmarked Williamsburg, 5 Oct.; with unrelated notations on address leaf).

The grand turk was Mahmud II, sultan of the Ottoman Empire. John keill dedicated to James Brydges, 1st Duke of Chandos, his work entitled An Introduction to the True Astronomy: or, Astronomical Lectures, Read in the Astronomical School of the University of Oxford (London, 1721; for a later edition, see Sowerby description begins E. Millicent Sowerby, comp., Catalogue of the Library of Thomas Jefferson, 1952–59, 5 vols. description ends , no. 3791).

1Word interlined in place of “informs me.”

2Reworked from “difference.”

3Word interlined in place of “only.”

4Reworked from “will.”

5Here and below, missing text supplied from Keill, Introduction to the True Astronomy.

6Omitted closing quotation mark editorially supplied.

Index Entries

  • Alexander I, emperor of Russia; opinion of sought search
  • An Introduction to the True Astronomy: or, Astronomical Lectures, Read in the Astronomical School of the University of Oxford (J. Keill) search
  • Brydges, James, 1st Duke of Chandos; work dedicated to search
  • Campbell, Ferdinand S.; and due east and west lines search
  • geography; and due east and west lines search
  • Ghent, Treaty of (1814); and national boundaries search
  • Keill, John; An Introduction to the True Astronomy: or, Astronomical Lectures, Read in the Astronomical School of the University of Oxford search
  • latitude; and political boundary lines search
  • Mahmud II, sultan of Ottoman Empire; opinion of sought search
  • navigation; and due east and west lines search
  • philology; TJ on search
  • Richmond Enquirer (newspaper); T. Ritchie as editor of search
  • Ritchie, Thomas; as editor ofRichmond Enquirer search
  • surveying; and due east and west lines search
  • Terrell, Chiles; and due east and west lines search
  • Terrell, Chiles; letter from search
  • William and Mary, College of; faculty of search