James Madison Papers

To James Madison from Thomas Jefferson, 10 June 1792

From Thomas Jefferson

Philadelphia June 10. 1792. No. 3.

Dear Sir

The poll of the N. Y. election stood the day before yesterday thus.

Clinton Jay
Suffolk 481 228.
Queen’s cty. 532 288
King’s cty. 244 92
city & county of N. Y. 603 739
Orange 551. 80.
Dutchess 751. 945
Westchester 347 824
Richmond 106 4
Ulster. 947 654
Columbia 1303 717
Renslaer 404 717
Washington 758 471
Saratoga.  405  461
7432 6220

General Schuyler says there will be about 16,000 voters and offers to bet 3. to 1. as far as 500. guineas that Jay will still be elected. However he seems to be alone here in that expectation. We dined together at the P’s on Thursday, and happening to set next one another, we got, towards the close of the afternoon, into a little contest whether hereditary descent or election was most likely to bring wise and honest men into public councils. He for the former, Pinkney & myself for the latter. I was not displeased to find the P. attended to the conversation as it will be a corroboration of the design imputed to that party in my letter.1 At a dinner of Jay-ites yesterday R. M. mentioned to the company that Clinton was to be vice-president, that the Antis intended to set him up. Bingham joined in attesting the project, which appeared new to the rest of the company. I paid Genl. Irvin 50 D. for mr. Moore, the receipt he had, vouching it. Adieu. Your’s affectionately

RC (DLC: Rives Collection, Madison Papers); FC, Tr (DLC: Jefferson Papers). Unsigned.

1In his 23 May letter to Washington, Jefferson had alleged that “the ultimate object” of the Hamiltonian system of funding the public debt “is to prepare the way for a change, from the present republican form of government, to that of a monarchy, of which the English constitution is to be the model” (Ford, Writings of Jefferson description begins Paul Leicester Ford, ed., The Writings of Thomas Jefferson (10 vols.; New York, 1892–99). description ends , VI, 3).

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