Thomas Jefferson to George Hay, 17 August 1823
To George Hay
Monticello Aug. 17. 23.
Dear Sir
I recieved yesterday your favor of the 11th. it referred to something said to be inclosed, without saying what, & in fact nothing was inclosed. but the preceding mail had brought me the Natl Intelligr of the 7th & 9th in which was a very able discussion on the mode of electing our President, signed Phocion. this, I suspect, is what your letter refers to. if I am right1 in this conjecture; I have no hesitation in saying that I have ever considered the constitutional mode of election, ultimately2 by the legislature voting by states,3 as the most dangerous blot in our constitution, and one which some unlucky chance will some day hit, and give us a pope and antipope. I looked therefore with anxiety to the amendmt proposed by Colo Taylor at the last session of Congress, which I thought would be a good substitute,4 if, on an equal division of the electors, after a 2d appeal to them,5 the ultimate decision between the two highest had been given by it to the legislature voting per capita. but the states are now so numerous that I despair of ever seeing another amendment of the constitution, altho’ the innovator Time6 will certainly call, and now already calls for some. and especially the smaller7 states are so numerous as to render desperate every hope of obtaining a sufficient proportion of them in favor of Phocion’s proposition. another general Convention can alone relieve us.8 What then is the best palliative of the evil in the meantime? another short question points9 to the answer. would we rather the choice should be made by the legislature voting in Congress by states, or in Caucus per capita? the remedy is bad, but the disease worse.10
But I have long since withdrawn from attention to political affairs. age and debility render me unequal and disinclined11 to them, and two crippled wrists to the use of the pen. peace with all the world, and a quiet descent thro’ the remainder of my time are now so necessary to my happiness that I am unwilling, by the expression of any opinion before the public, to rekindle antient animosities, covered under their ashes indeed,12 but not extinguished. yet altho’ weaned from politics, I am not so from the love of my friends; and to yourself particularly I can give assurance with truth of my constant and cordial affection and respect.
Th: Jefferson
RC (ViU: TJP); addressed: “George Hay esquire Washington Col.”; franked; postmarked Charlottesville, 20 Aug. Dft (DLC); on verso of reused address cover to TJ.
The very able discussion on the mode of electing our president was a set of three essays, signed “Phocion” but likely authored by Hay, which appeared in the Washington Daily National Intelligencer, 7–9 Aug. 1823. “Phocion” proposed a constitutional amendment that would provide for the election of presidential electors by district, rather than a general ticket system wherein individual voters elect a state’s full slate of electors.
The constitutional amendmt proposed by John Taylor on 10 Jan. 1823 intended to avoid elections being determined by the House of Representatives. If no one received the necessary majority in the first round of balloting in the Electoral College, he would have allowed for a second one there, limited to the two candidates who had previously received the most votes. Only in the event of a tie at that point would the decision pass to the House (Annals, 17th Cong., 2d sess., 100–1, 266).
1. Word interlined in Dft in place of “wrong.”
2. Preceding three words interlined in Dft in place of “as the greatest.”
3. Preceding four words interlined in Dft in place of “H. of R. ultimately.”
4. Preceding three words interlined in Dft in place of “the best.”
5. Preceding six words interlined in Dft.
6. Dft: “innovns of time.”
7. Reworked in Dft from “small.”
8. Sentence interlined in Dft.
9. Word interlined in Dft in place of “leads.”
10. Sentence interlined in Dft in place of “it is an objectionable remedy, yet better than none.”
11. Preceding two words interlined in Dft.
12. Word interlined in Dft.
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