Thomas Jefferson Papers

Green Clay to Thomas Jefferson, 4 May 1823

From Green Clay

Madison County, Ky. May 4th 1823

Sir

I hardly Expect you recollect me, I am the Brother of Parson Charles Clay once of Albemarle Co—I went out with a Troop of light horse to the Northward in company with your Brother Randolph: in 1778. from your house.

The Object of this letter is to enquire of you if you have a knowledge or recollection of any Treaty made with the Cherokee Indians which was in force in 1779 at the opening of the land Office under the Commlth of Virga. The first Treaty we have any knowledge of is the Treaty of Hopewell of the 3d Jany 1786.

we think a Treaty might have been made with the Cherokees: after the Decleration of Independance, which might not have been published: if such was the fact, we know of no person more likely to possess a knowledge of it, than yourself: The lands below the Tennessee River now the subject of controversy betwen Kentucky & Virga may be effected by such a Treaty so far as respects Individuals only. The land law of Va Excepts from location by Treasury warrants The Country and limits of the Cherokee Indns &c Any Information in your power, which you may be pleased to give us on this Subject will confer a lasting Obligation on Many Persons1 in this State and Virginia deeply Interested in this question. May God give you many days yet, in health and much happyness.

Green Clay.

RC (DLC); endorsed by TJ as received 27 May 1823 and so recorded in SJL.

Green Clay (1757–1828), surveyor and public official, was the brother of TJ’s friend and correspondent Charles Clay (1745–1820) and the father of the abolitionist Cassius Marcellus Clay. Born in what later became Powhatan County, in 1777 he accompanied a surveying party to Kentucky. Clay became deputy surveyor of Lincoln County in 1781 and through this profession acquired a great deal of Kentucky land. He settled at White Hall, his estate in Madison County, and represented that county in the Virginia House of Delegates for three sessions, 1787–89, and at the state convention of 1788, where he voted against ratifying the United States Constitution. After Kentucky achieved statehood in 1792, Clay represented Madison County in the Kentucky House of Representatives, 1793–94, and in its Senate, 1795–98 and 1802–08, serving as Speaker, 1807–08. He also helped draft the state’s constitution in 1799. Clay’s extensive landholdings and commercial and industrial investments brought him great wealth. As a major general in the Kentucky militia, during the War of 1812 he led volunteers in 1813 to relieve American forces besieged at Fort Meigs, Ohio. In his will Clay listed about 115 slaves, and ordered at least 10 emancipated. He suffered for several years from cancer and died at White Hall (ANB description begins John A. Garraty and Mark C. Carnes, eds., American National Biography, 1999, 24 vols. description ends ; DAB description begins Allen Johnson and Dumas Malone, eds., Dictionary of American Biography, 1928–36, 20 vols. description ends ; DVB description begins John T. Kneebone, Sara B. Bearss, and others, eds., Dictionary of Virginia Biography, 1998– , 3 vols. description ends ; Leonard, General Assembly description begins Cynthia Miller Leonard, comp., The General Assembly of Virginia, July 30, 1619–January 11, 1978: A Bicentennial Register of Members, 1978 description ends ; Clay, To the People of Kentucky and of The United States [1825]; Lexington Kentucky Reporter, 19 Nov. 1828; gravestone inscription in Richmond Cemetery, Richmond, Ky.; Madison Co. Will Book, D:461–9).

The United States concluded a treaty on the 3d jany 1786 at Hopewell, South Carolina, with the Choctaw Indians, not the Cherokee. Its first treaty with the latter people, also negotiated at Hopewell, was signed on 28 Nov. 1785 (U.S. Statutes at Large description begins Richard Peters, ed., The Public Statutes at Large of the United States … 1789 to March 3, 1845, 1845–67, 8 vols. description ends , 7:18–23). A year after the decleration of independance, at the Long Island of the Holston River on 20 July 1777 the Overhill Cherokee ceded land to Virginia and North Carolina (Archibald Henderson, “The Treaty of Long Island of Holston, July, 1777,” North Carolina Historical Review 8 [1931]: 55–116).

1Manuscript: “Persens.”

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  • Cherokee Indians; treaties with search
  • Choctaw Indians search
  • Clay, Charles; family of search
  • Clay, Green; and treaties with Cherokee Indians search
  • Clay, Green; identified search
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  • Hopewell, Treaty of (1785) search
  • Hopewell, Treaty of (1786) search
  • Indians, American; Cherokee search
  • Indians, American; Choctaw search
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  • Jefferson, Randolph (TJ’s brother); Revolutionary War service of search
  • Kentucky; and Va. land grants search
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