Thomas Jefferson Papers

Joseph C. Cabell to Thomas Jefferson, 24 March 1823

From Joseph C. Cabell

Williamsburg. March 24. 1823.

Dear Sir,

I have had the pleasure of receiving your favor of 12th inst. I am at all times disposed favorably to every thing which you think best for the University, and make no doubt but that on this occasion you have pursued the course best calculated to promote its interests. I certainly intend to leave this on thursday the 27th inst and after making a visit to my farm in Nelson, to come to Monticello on the day before the next meeting. But something now unforeseen may occur to prevent my coming. I will therefore remark to you by letter, that it is highly probable that our friend Genl Cocke, may propose at the meeting to adopt a course of proceeding somewhat different from the one you seem to have adopted in regard to the Library. He has written to me, that he should propose, first, to pay off all existing debts, and, then to adapt the plan of the Library to the residue of the funds. Perhaps the contracts which you have authorized may divert him from this course. Possibly Mr Johnson may concur with Genl Cocke in this opinion, but of this I have no evidence. I shall be at Bremo on the 29th when I will endeavor to divert the Genl from the course he lately contemplated. I fear from the indications furnished by your late letters that the money will fall short. Be that as it may, I would venture to recommend to you to conduct affairs in such a way as to avoid another application to the Legislature for building funds. It appears to me that the plan you have adopted, of engaging for the Hull of the Library is a prudent one, in reference to this object. I earnestly hope that the House may be got into a condition to be used, with the proceeds of the Last Loan: & that we may be able to make this Assurance to the next Assembly, when we apply for the remission. I am persuaded that this is a point of great importance. Mr Doddridge requested me to state to you that he had supported the third Loan, but that his patience was worn out, and that another application would not & could not be received. Such he said was the sentiment of all his friends. It would probably be in itself useful and very satisfactory to the Board of Visitors, and the public, if some unusual degree of care should be given to the subject of the materials of the Library, so as to ensure their being furnished at prices the most reasonable, & worked up without waste or imposition. Precautionary measures, such as resolutions of instruction to the Proctor, & requisitions of particular & detailed reports, would probably allay the anxiety of some of the members.—We have a difficult course to steer in the Assembly. Among the most dangerous of our opponents, are a certain class of politicians, who are friendly to the University, but very fastidious about the manner in which you conduct it. These persons seem desirous to exhibit themselves in the ranks of its friends, as leaders whose support is a sine qua non of its existence, but nothing which they do must imply an approbation of its management. Perhaps I may be uncharitable; but it does appear to me, that there is a powerful party in this state with whom it is almost a passport to reputation to condemn the plan & management of the University. They have extended their influence over some honest & intelligent men who do not concur in their political prejudices.—Perhaps this may be the natural result of old political conflicts. Yet I sometimes think I can see something more. Another difficulty which embarrasses our course, is that of not asking too much on the one hand, and not committing ourselves improperly as to the future on the other. I was often enquired of last winter, as to what we should do about a Library and apparatus. My reply was, that it would certainly be good policy in the Legislature to grant occasional aids towards those objects; but that the Institution could go into operation & flourish without them. I stated that a portion of the fees of tuition, by a resolution of the board of Visitors already adopted, was to pass into the coffers of the institution, and would probably be appropriated to the purchase of books & apparatus. I think it would be politic & proper at a suitable time to ask the Legislature to anticipate this fund, by a loan of some 50 or 60,000$ for the purchase of books & apparatus, charging the loan on that portion of the fees as a sinking fund, & pledging the state merely eventually, by way of ensuring the success of the Loan. Not a man of sense in the state would de[ny] the great importance of furnishing to the professors of physical scien[ce the] means of bringing out with them from Europe the necessary apparatus [col]lected by themselves. It would be well not to give currency to this scheme, (should it be approved) till about the time of bringing it forward. It is the only plan on which I could venture to approach the Legislature on that branch of our affairs after the ground we have taken; but I am strongly in hope it would be admissible & successful. I should be gratified if you & Mr Madison would take it under your consideration.

I am, dear Sir, ever faithfully yours

Joseph C. Cabell

RC (ViU: TJP-PC); torn at seal; addressed: “Mr Jefferson Monticello”; franked; postmarked Williamsburg, 24 Mar.; endorsed by TJ as a letter of 14 Mar. 1823 received 30 Mar. and so recorded in SJL.

Anticipating the upcoming meeting of the University of Virginia Board of Visitors, on 30 Mar. 1823 Chapman Johnson wrote from Richmond to John H. Cocke (one word editorially corrected) that “I have much satisfaction in reflecting that our opinions have generally concurred, on the subject of this institution; and I am glad to find, that on the subject of the rotunda, they are likely again to concur—I fear, however, that the old chief [i.e., TJ] has us bound beyond our power of extrication—But we should not suffer this appre[hen]sion to prevent us from doing our duty; which requires, I think, that we should go, enquire what is done, how far it is prudent to proceed, how far practicable to retreat—.
 I am very desirous to build the rotunda, if we can do it with prudence—Though I believe the public disapproves the building, yet they expect it, and consider it a part of the system which they have authorised—The Legislature, however, have, no doubt, for the most part, acted under the belief, that the appropriation made, was adequate or nearly adequate to its completion—and I fear with you, that they would ill bear an application for another $60000 dollars, to complete the buildings—My conjectures lead me most strongly to anticipate that, if the rotunda is built under the system heretofore pursued, an additional $60000, is the least sum, that would probably suffice to finish the buildings” (RC in ViU: JHC).

Index Entries

  • Brockenbrough, Arthur Spicer; as University of Virginia proctor search
  • Cabell, Joseph Carrington; and University of Virginia finances search
  • Cabell, Joseph Carrington; as member of University of Virginia Board of Visitors search
  • Cabell, Joseph Carrington; as Va. state senator search
  • Cabell, Joseph Carrington; letters from search
  • Cocke, John Hartwell (1780–1866); as member of University of Virginia Board of Visitors search
  • Cocke, John Hartwell (1780–1866); correspondence with C. Johnson search
  • Doddridge, Philip; as Va. legislator search
  • Johnson, Chapman; as member of University of Virginia Board of Visitors search
  • Johnson, Chapman; correspondence with J. H. Cocke search
  • Madison, James (1751–1836); as member of University of Virginia Board of Visitors search
  • Virginia, University of; Administration and Financial Affairs; funding for search
  • Virginia, University of; Administration and Financial Affairs; proctor of search
  • Virginia, University of; Board of Visitors; and construction of University of Virginia search
  • Virginia, University of; Board of Visitors; meetings of search
  • Virginia, University of; Books and Library; books and manuscripts for search
  • Virginia, University of; Construction and Grounds; Rotunda (library) search
  • Virginia, University of; Establishment; and General Assembly search
  • Virginia, University of; Establishment; opposition to search
  • Virginia, University of; Faculty and Curriculum; scientific instruments for search
  • Virginia, University of; Students; and tuition fees search
  • Virginia; General Assembly search