Thomas Jefferson Papers

John Bannister Gibson to Thomas Jefferson, 3 February 1823

From John Bannister Gibson

Carlisle (Penna) 3 Feb 1823.

Dr Sir

General Rogers of this state, who is compiling a biographical dictionary of the men of the revolution, has applied to me for a sketch of the life of my father, the late Col. George Gibson, who I beleive had the pleasure of being among the number of your friends and acquaintances.1 It will probably be within your recollection that while a Captain in the service of Virginia, (of which I think you were then the Governor) he was employed by that state to effect an arrangement with the Spanish authorities at New Orleans for a supply of Gunpowder the want of which began to be felt. This commission he executed successfully, and perhaps not without address and personal risque, as Captain Gibson was shortly afterwards promoted to the command of one of the Virginia regiments. I have not seen a notice of this transaction in any history of the revolution—it may not have possessed sufficient merit or dignity to arrest the attention of the historian—nor have I any other knowledge of it, than what I retain from a recollection of incidents apparently those of romance, in his descent of the Mississipia and Ohio, and in his return on foot through the wilderness to Pittsburg, related by him for the fire side amusement of his children; but which, although I was then very young made an impression on my mind among those that will be last effaced. Time has swept away nearly all who were concerned in the matter, and among the survivors you are perhaps the only person at all acquainted with the facts and circumstances connected with it. On this ground I rely on your kindness to the memory of a man of some worth, to pardon me for obtruding on you a request for information in relation to the date of this mission; the causes which gave rise to it; the manner of its execution; and, in short, any matter connected with it, which you may deem worthy of notice. General Rogers work will go to press about the first of June; at which time it will be necessary for me to have the sketch prepared.

I purpose to furnish also a notice of the late General John Gibson, with the circumstances connected with the celebrated speech of Logan, as I had them from the Generals lips a few months previous to his death. The question with respect to the genuineness of the speech as published in the notes on Virginia, as well as the causes which gave rise to the indian war, has been put at rest: but all the incidents of that war still2 possess no inconsiderable share of interest; and this may perhaps add a mite to the value of Genl Rogers’ book.

In requesting information from you, I am fully sensible how much I trespass on your comfort and ease—the more so, as I discover in your correspondence with Mr Adams, that you do not write without a painful effort; but it is with great pleasure I observe3 that time, although attended with its usual train of bodily infirmities, has been unable to effect anything against the sprightliness and vigor of your mind. It is consoling to us of middle age4 to be convinced by many illustrious examples, that we have at least a chance of encountering old age disarmed of the worst half of its means of annoyance.

Believe me sir with sentiments of profound respect and esteem

Your obedient Servant

John Bannister Gibson

RC (MHi); addressed: “The Honorable Thomas Jefferson Late President of the United States Monticello Virginia”; franked; postmarked Carlisle, 3 Feb.; endorsed by TJ as received 13 Feb. 1823 and so recorded in SJL.

John Bannister Gibson (1780–1853), attorney and judge, was born at Westover Mill, Perry County, Pennsylvania. After receiving his early education at a school operated by his mother, he entered Dickinson College about 1795, but did not graduate. Gibson studied law thereafter with a local attorney and was admitted to the bar in 1803. He practiced in Beaver, Pennsylvania, and Hagerstown, Maryland, before settling in Carlisle, Pennsylvania. Gibson served two terms in the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, 1810–12. A Democrat, he supported legislative sponsorship of internal improvements and during his second term chaired the Committee on the Judiciary. Governor Simon Snyder appointed him president judge of the court of common pleas for a newly created judicial district in 1813, and in 1816 Snyder promoted him to associate justice on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court. Gibson became chief justice in 1827 and remained on that court for the rest of his life, although he dropped down to associate justice again in 1851 under a new state constitution. During his highly influential career, he wrote more than twelve hundred opinions and was known for maintaining a generally restrictive view of judicial authority, aiding measures for internal improvements and public works, and disenfranchising Pennsylvania’s free blacks in a unanimous 1837 court decision. Gibson lived for most of his life in Carlisle, but he died during a visit to Philadelphia (ANB description begins John A. Garraty and Mark C. Carnes, eds., American National Biography, 1999, 24 vols. description ends ; DAB description begins Allen Johnson and Dumas Malone, eds., Dictionary of American Biography, 1928–36, 20 vols. description ends ; Thomas P. Roberts, Memoirs of John Bannister Gibson, Late Chief Justice of Pennsylvania [1890]; Joshua A. Lippincott and Ovando B. Super, Alumni Record of Dickinson College, Carlisle, Pa. [1886], unpaginated frontmatter, 210; Philadelphia North American and United States Gazette, 4 May 1853; gravestone inscription in Old Graveyard, Carlisle, Pennsylvania).

The third edition of Thomas J. Rogers’s compiled biographical dictionary, A New American Biographical Dictionary; or, Remembrancer of the Departed Heroes, Sages, and Statesmen, of America (Easton, Pa., 1824), contained new essays on George Gibson (pp. 166–71) and John Gibson (pp. 163–6) without attribution of authorship. The previous editions appeared in 1813 and 1823.

While many of TJ’s papers as governor of Virginia were lost in a British raid on Richmond in January 1781, his extant correspondence with George Gibson does not mention the latter’s negotiation with the spanish authorities at new orleans. For the controversy over the genuineness of the speech by the Mingo Indian James Logan, see William O. Allen to TJ, 9 Feb. 1810, and note. The recently published correspondence with mr adams was TJ to John Adams, 1 June 1822.

1Manuscript: “acqaintances.”

2Word interlined.

3Word interlined in place of what appears to be “find.”

4Word interlined in place of “life.”

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  • Adams, John; correspondence of published search
  • A New American Biographical Dictionary; or, Remembrancer of the Departed Heroes, Sages, and Statesmen, of America (T. Rogers) search
  • biography; A New American Biographical Dictionary; or, Remembrancer of the Departed Heroes, Sages, and Statesmen, of America (T. Rogers) search
  • books; biographical search
  • Dunmore, John Murray, 4th Earl of; Dunmore’s War search
  • Gibson, George; biography of search
  • Gibson, George; Revolutionary War service of search
  • Gibson, John (1740–1822); biography of search
  • Gibson, John Bannister; and biography of G. Gibson search
  • Gibson, John Bannister; and biography of J. Gibson (1740–1822) search
  • Gibson, John Bannister; identified search
  • Gibson, John Bannister; letter from search
  • gunpowder; in American Revolution search
  • Indians, American; and Dunmore’s War search
  • Indians, American; Mingo search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Correspondence; fatiguing or painful to search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Correspondence; publication of papers search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Public Service; as governor of Va. search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Writings; Notes on the State of Virginia search
  • Logan, James (ca.1725–80) (Mingo Indian); speech of search
  • Mingo Indians search
  • Mississippi River; mentioned search
  • New Orleans; in American Revolution search
  • Notes on the State of Virginia (Thomas Jefferson); and Indians search
  • Ohio River; mentioned search
  • Revolutionary War; and biographical works search
  • Rogers, Thomas; A New American Biographical Dictionary; or, Remembrancer of the Departed Heroes, Sages, and Statesmen, of America search