Thomas Jefferson Papers

Thomas G. Watkins to Thomas Jefferson, [26] December 1822

From Thomas G. Watkins

Glenmore Decr 2 [26] 1822.

Dear Sir,

I have glanced hastily over the remarks contained in the pamphlet sent you from Ohio, which you were so good as to afford me the perusal of. Under the existing state of the popular sentiment of Ohio—it seems somewhat difficult to penetrate the writers motive. whether it is seriously to support with a view to present fruition, the views in support of Mr Clay—or whether it is designed to pave the way to the consideration of Mr Crawford. Whatever may have been the original design, when we calculate the effect of the course pursued in Ohio, I think it promises well for the true republican cause. By calling the attention of the state to Mr Clay in the first instance—their local feelings & other considerations were more likely to cooperate in his favour against an eastern or a northern man, than in that of a Southern candidate. The Northern or Eastern claim once fairly quieted there—it may perhaps be more easy to adjust the conflicting claims of Mr Clay and a southern candidate suitably to the great and genuine republican views. But the course proposed of legislative nomination seems to me more objectionable on many accounts—than the individual nomination. The writer prefers a nomination by a convention of the members of the state legislatures for the following reasons. The nomination by members of congress by designating the candidate virtually elects the president. Popular meetings to designate the candidate wou’d be influenced by the more disinterested intelligence—but got up and directed by the officiousness of designing demagogues—they will misrepresent the real public sentiment. Without entering minutely upon the insufficiency of the writers arguments in favour of state legislative nominations on any future occasions—it is more material for the republicans to consider of the propriety or impropriety of its adoption on the present occasion. If all the methods hitherto proposed for pointing with united effect the public suffrage to the individual most proper to fill the presidential office, have met with weighty objections, it proves the importance and difficulty of the subject to be great. To accommodate these wou’d require great deliberation in a proposed change of the one adopted for any other new plan. But the different legislatures are called upon to decide upon the spur of the occasion—during their present winter session, for if they did not—there wou’d be no time for concert in this plan, as the next winter’s sessions must act upon the measure of actually appointing Electors. If there was time for a deliberate examination of the new plan proposed—must it not result in these conclusions—that the Congressional nomination has been so long established as the more convenient mode of ascertaining the public sentiment—that temporary distraction wou’d be the first consequence of a change. and if so, are the republicans sufficiently certain, that their interests, which are considered to be identified with the public good—might not be greatly endangered if not finally overthrown by any distraction or want of concert in their proceedings at this critical moment. The plan of a congressional nomination was established by the federalists to secure their usurped power. If it is necessary to maintain the restored ascendancy of the popular influence—it shou’d be retained untill this may safely dispense with it—I wou’d deprecate intrigue, as such, with a pure Sincerity not exceeded by any other—But if the intrigues of federalis[ts,] the Caput mortuum of monarchy among us—have imposed a necessity for concert and a profound & watchful policy—to defeat hostile views to republicanism—let it not be called intrigue—It is political wisdom, consecrated by the virtuous objects of liberty and rendered respectable by intelligence1 and principle—It is not the dark engine of despotism degraded by corruption and sanctioned by authority, in its imposition upon ignorance and impotence. But if we must suppose the existence of intrigue acting influentially upon selfishness—is it not more reasonable to suppose, that the less enlightened and conspicuous members of a state legislature, might be misled, on a subject not directly affecting their local concerns—than the direct representatives of the people in their national capacity in Congress. The dangers of corruption exist nearly alike every where—To effect the same object in the state legislatures—which they wou’d effect in a congressional caucus—members of Congress need only write a few letters to their confidential friends and agents in the state legislatures. The corrective here is to change members of Congress often enough to loose them from presidential dependence. And suffer not their state—to be merged in an entire national capacity. After all the main questions for consideration are—is it necessary to adopt some mode of ascertaining and uniting the real public voice, that is the republican voice, in the choice of a next president? and if it is what is the most efficient mode?—for that now is the paramount concern—and not what may hereafter in practice or principle be least objectionable. The Ohio writer himself admits the efficiency of the Congressional nomination—when he asserts that the confidence reposed in it by the people is such as virtually to elect a president through its medium. The people giving themselves little further concern. Supineness in the people is always wrong—they ought to watch all their agents in all their agencies. But the very supineness here adverted to is an evidence of the acquiescence of the people generally in the measure opposed by the writer—and the acquiescence of the people in any measure is prima facie evidence, if not conclusive, of its correctness. Let us see how far in this case it is good evidence of the correctness of the plan. State legislatures are elected to transact state business—their members are not deputed to act upon national matters—having no national capacity as state legislators, in any wise attached to them—what have they to do then with an affair purely national? The members of congress are the direct representatives of the popular will in its national capacity—as such they wou’d be more likely to know the sentiments of their constituents upon national questions and better able to represent them. While the others in sounding the views and sentiments of their constituents wou’d step out of their proper course if they touched upon other than state matters. State legislatures wou’d be more apt to obey local considerations than national in presidential nominations—whereas it is the very business of congressional members to act upon national ones. Why is a congressional election of a president so much deprecated—because there the election is taken further from the direct representation of the people in their popular capacity and transfered to the states in their state capacity—Which in practice had well nigh proved fatal to popular right of choice on one occasion already. Who make the greatest objections to congressional nominations now? I believe federalists in disguise together with known federalists, since the latter can’t derive to themselves the benefits of its abuse, which they originally contemplated by the introduction of the practice. Tho’ instituted for a corrupt purpose it has approved itself beneficial to the people2—a strong evidence that it is not very much out of the way in principle. If it is, let it be a warning to its authors, that, “Sæpe intereunt aliis meditantes necem”—All federal intriguers in the western country, see that the republican principles are so firmly and generally established there that they must act under its disguise—By geting up a division among the republicans and fostering it—they hope to weaken their influence & defeat their Ultimate views—but short sighted in this as in many other things not founded in honesty—they do not percieve, how in the end it may be turned against themselves—An Argument used there in favour of Mr Clay is that he is one of the old republicans and that his claims are now advocated by the old heads of the atlantic republican School. This very argument will prepare the people’s feelings to Unite with the atlantic republicans—upon a just comparison of views—The messenger is waiting to take a book to Miss Randolph & your pamphlet back to you—I have no apology to offer for pestering you with my vain speculations but that if I happen to stumble upon a good idea, with you it might be useful—with me of no acct—it is not wholesome for you now to trouble yourself with originating new ideas or combining old—and those offered by your affectionate fellow citizens if no otherwise useful, may serve to remind you of their dependence upon you as long as you live. I sincerely wish you a merry Christmas & many hearty & happy new years while I shall always remain with great affectn & respect

yr obdt Servt & friend

Th: G Watkins

RC (DLC: TJ Papers, 223:39839–41); misdated; edge trimmed; endorsed by TJ, with bracketed “2” for day of composition, as received 26 Dec. 1822. Recorded in SJL as a letter dated “Dec. 2. for 26” and received the latter day. Enclosure: “A Citizen of Ohio,” Observations on the Nomination of a Candidate for the Presidency: Submitted for the consideration of the Members of the Legislature now in session ([1822]; dated 12 Dec. 1822 on final page; TJ’s copy in ViU, with handwritten, mutilated inscription by Noah Zane on title page: “Noah Zane to Thos. Jeffe[rson]”), calling for an end to presidential nominations by congressional caucus; proposing instead nomination by state legislatures as a way to mitigate political intrigue and better reflect the desires of the American people; discussing Ohio’s role in the Union and noting that in that state “party distinctions are scarcely known; they never influence her councils” (p. 7); expressing doubts about most of the potential presidential candidates for the election of 1824 and arguing in general that sitting cabinet members ought not to be considered; commenting on Ohio’s desire for funding of internal improvements and praising Henry Clay’s stance on this issue; and concluding by “expressing a hope, that the members of the legislature, now in session, will proceed, at once, to nominate a candidate for the Presidency, and that they will put Mr. Clay in nomination” (p. 15).

caput mortuum: literally, “dead head”; figuratively, “worthless residue” (OED description begins James A. H. Murray, J. A. Simpson, E. S. C. Weiner, and others, eds., The Oxford English Dictionary, 2d ed., 1989, 20 vols. description ends ). The occasion on which choice by the states in their state capacity had well nigh proved fatal to popular right of choice was the election of 1800, when voting by state in the United States House of Representatives nearly cost TJ the presidency. sæpe intereunt aliis meditantes necem: “they often perish who plan death for others.”

A letter from Watkins to TJ of 20 Oct. 1822, not found, is recorded in SJL as received 21 Oct. 1822 from Glenmore.

1Manuscript: “inttelligence.”

2Watkins here canceled “in practice.”

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  • Federalist party; T. G. Watkins on search
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  • Observations on the Nomination of a Candidate for the Presidency: Submitted for the consideration of the Members of the Legislature now in session (“A Citizen of Ohio”) search
  • Ohio; and internal improvements search
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  • Republican party; in Ohio search
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