Thomas Jefferson Papers

Edmund Bacon to Thomas Jefferson, 2 August 1822, with Jefferson’s Note

From Edmund Bacon, with Jefferson’s Note

August 2nd 22.

Deare sir.

I would be obliged to you to no what you are willing to take for the carriage. in a note last yeare you proposed to take what the carriage maker would think it worth of1 Charlottesville. I am intirely willing to allow you the value of the article but consider the carriage maker of Charlottesville an unfit person to fix the price on it. we all no that his work is more deare than at any other place in all my acquaintance. besides when ever he sells a Job of work it is for some sort of trade scasely any cash we find when any article of property is offerd at public sale for cash it sells cheap. I should be willing a person that is a good Judge of the article should value it. I considerd Mr Randolph as good a Judge as any he has often seen such articles sold I got him to inquire at Richmond what a carriall could be bought at. he tells me a plenty can be bought at from 35 to 50$ they are often braught to Charlottesville and sold for about the same I consider yours worth some more than a common carriall some parts of it is far from being as good as new which you can see on examination

Mr Th J Randolph mention’d to Mr E Randolph yesterday conserning my Joining him in the mill his reply was that he was on a treaty with Read and that he thaught the trade would be closed he had much better Kept Colclaser than read in my Opinion I calculate to leave virginia in the next month.

I am yours sincerly

E: Bacon

[Note by TJ beneath endorsement:]

he agreed verbally to give 75. D

RC (ViU: TJP-ER); dateline at foot of text; adjacent to closing and signature: “Mr Jefferson”; endorsed by TJ.

TJ’s note to Bacon of the preceding year has not been found. The carriage maker of charlottesville was Francis Modena. A carriole (carriall) is a “small open carriage with a seat for a single person” or a “covered light cart” (OED description begins James A. H. Murray, J. A. Simpson, E. S. C. Weiner, and others, eds., The Oxford English Dictionary, 2d ed., 1989, 20 vols. description ends ). e randolph: Thomas Eston Randolph.

1Thus in manuscript.

Index Entries

  • Bacon, Edmund; and Shadwell mills search
  • Bacon, Edmund; buys carriage from TJ search
  • Bacon, Edmund; letters from search
  • Bacon, Edmund; letters to accounted for search
  • Bacon, Edmund; plans to move west search
  • carriages; carrioles search
  • carriages; sold to E. Bacon search
  • Colclaser, Daniel; as miller search
  • currency; and prices search
  • Modena, Francis; Charlottesville carriage maker search
  • Randolph, Thomas Eston (TJ’s cousin); and Shadwell mills search
  • Randolph, Thomas Jefferson (1792–1875) (TJ’s grandson; Jane Hollins Nicholas Randolph’s husband); as manager of Monticello search
  • Randolph, Thomas Mann (1768–1828) (TJ’s son-in-law; Martha Jefferson Randolph’s husband); and carriages search
  • Read, Peter B.; as miller and millwright search
  • Shadwell mills; and T. E. Randolph search