Thomas Jefferson Papers

Deposition of Richard Price in Jefferson v. Michie, 20 September 1814

Deposition of Richard Price in Jefferson v. Michie

The deposition of Richard Price taken at the house of John Watson in the town of Milton on the 20h day of September 1814 in a suit depending in the County Court of Albemarle in Chancery between Thomas Jefferson Complainant and David Michie Deft under a Commission to us directed.

The deponent being first sworn on the holy evangelist deposeth and saith that some time in the spring of 1804 he saw John Henderson son of Bennett Henderson in the town of milton in possession of an instrument of writing under which he claimed the right of Conducting a mill race through the dower land of his mother Elizabeth Henderson adjoining the town of milton That the deponent mentioned to the said John that he should be ashamed to produce such an instrument in Court the same being interlined in the most obligatory part, particularly that part under which he claimed the right of Conducting a mill race through said Mrs Hendersons dower land: the said John replied that the Conveyance was interlined before signed, and the deponent observed that a note of the interlineation was made at the bottom of said writing.

The Deponent having been asked whether he believed that the instrument he saw in possession of John Henderson was realy and bona fide executed by Mrs Henderson in the manner & form in which he saw it?

Answers that he doth not actually know whether the interlineation was made before or after the instrument was executed by Mrs Henderson but believes it was afterwards and therefore he made the aforesaid observation—Having been asked whether from his acquaintance with the actions character & principles of the said John Henderson, he believed him Capable of an act like the one imputed to him by the former question? Answers that he hath been acquainted with the said John Henderson twelve years and doth think him Capable of Committing such an act.

Having been asked what is the general opinion so far as it has reached him of the Correctness and fair dealing of the said John between man & man Saith that so far as the acts of the said John have Come to his knowledge they have not been fair, and it is a general opinion that they have not been fair.

Having been asked whether he was positive as to the time when he saw the said John in the possession of the instrument relating to the mill race? Sayeth that it was in the spring of the year 1804 to the best of his recollection and of this he is pretty Certain but not positive.

Having been asked whether it was before or since he heard of the Controversy which had taken place between Craven Peyton & the sd John relative to the mill site & race that he saw the said paper in possession of the said John? Says that it was since, for the Conversation was brought up by talking of which had the better right.

Having been asked whether he had given an opinion at that time or at any time before his first deposition was taken on this subject as to which had the better right? says he never had.

Having been asked whether he had not had many disputes both in & out of Court with the said John? and whether he did not entertain a strong enmity against him? Saith that he hath had many disputes with the said John in and out of Court but at this time hath no animosity against him whatsoever.

Having been asked whether Kemp Catlett was a subscribing witness to the paper before mentioned relating to the mill race? Answers that he was. Having been asked about his disputes with the said John and whether he believed that he has had disputes of the Same nature with his own, with most men1 who have had much dealing with him? Answered that he had with a good many as he believed.

Having been asked whether he had any Conversation with Kemp Catlett who is said to be a witness to the aforesd instrument2 about the same, and what was that Conversation? Answered that he had at the time the said Jno showed the instrument; and the sd Catlett said he did not know whether it was interlined or not, at the time he signed as a witness.

Having been asked whether he was Certain that the instrument of writing before alluded to was signed by Elizabeth Henderson, and from his view of it at the time, if it might not have been signed by James Henderson, or some other member of the family? Answered that he believed that Mrs Hendersons name was to it but who signed it he Could not tell.

Having been asked whether he believed that the writing before alluded to was a Copy or the original paper, or whether the said John told him it was a Copy? Says that he believes the instrument produced by the said John was the original as the name of Kemp Catlett who was a witness thereto appeared to be in his own hand writing, and the said John did not say it was a Copy.

Having been asked whether he knew the date of the instrument aforesaid and whether he knew it was the same which is said to be lost? Answers that he does not—And further this deponent saith not.

Richd Price

Albemarle County to wit

The before going deposition taken and sworn to in due form before us this 20h of Sept 1814

Jno Watson
Jas Old

Tr (ViU: TJP-LBJM); entirely in George Carr’s hand.

Richard Price (d. 1827) operated an ordinary in the town of Milton. Price carried goods from Milton to Monticello for TJ, who stopped occasionally at Price’s establishment for meals and supplies. TJ praised Price’s honesty and his gardening skills when he recommended him to Louis H. Girardin as a source for plant seeds (PTJ description begins Julian P. Boyd, Charles T. Cullen, John Catanzariti, Barbara B. Oberg, and others, eds., The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, 1950– , 34 vols. description ends , 28:471–4; Woods, Albemarle description begins Edgar Woods, Albemarle County in Virginia, 1901, repr. 1991 description ends , 57, 298; Albemarle Co. Order Book [1800–01], 406; MB description begins James A. Bear Jr. and Lucia C. Stanton, eds., Jefferson’s Memorandum Books: Accounts, with Legal Records and Miscellany, 1767–1826, 1997, The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Second Series description ends ; TJ to Girardin, 31 Mar. 1813; Albemarle Co. Will Book, 9:42).

For Price’s first deposition on this subject, given on 17 May 1805 in the case of Peyton v. Henderson, see note to Bill of Complaint in Jefferson v. Michie, 16 June 1813.

1Thus in manuscript.

2Manuscript: “intrument.”

Index Entries

  • Catlett, Kemp; and Henderson case search
  • Henderson, Bennett; legatees of search
  • Henderson, Elizabeth Lewis (Bennett Henderson’s wife); and Jefferson v. Michie search
  • Henderson, Elizabeth Lewis (Bennett Henderson’s wife); and rights to millrace search
  • Henderson, James L.; and Henderson estate search
  • Henderson, John; and rights to millrace search
  • Henderson, John; and TJ’s land dispute with D. Michie search
  • Henderson case; and Peyton v. Henderson search
  • Jefferson, Thomas; Business & Financial Affairs; dispute with D. Michie search
  • Jefferson v. Michie; and depositions search
  • Michie, David; Jefferson v. Michie search
  • Milton, Va.; Henderson mill at search
  • Old, James; and Jefferson v. Michie search
  • Peyton, Craven; and Henderson case search
  • Peyton v. Henderson; depositions in search
  • Price, Richard (of Milton); and Henderson estate search
  • Price, Richard (of Milton); Deposition of in Jefferson v. Michie search
  • Price, Richard (of Milton); identified search
  • Price, Richard (of Milton); Jefferson v. Michie search
  • Watson, John; and Jefferson v. Michie search