Thomas Jefferson Papers

To Thomas Jefferson from James Madison, 16 August 1804

From James Madison

Aug. 16. 1804

Dear Sir

Inclosed is a letter of late date from Mr Monroe and the originals of those heretofore recd. from Mr Livingston in press copies. Mr. L. now admits that the debts will exceed 20,000,000 livrs. How he calculates 2 Millions of interest as the effect of the delay which is less in every view than a year, or how he can charge the delay on the U.S. when he admits that the French Govt forbears to take the steps depending on them, or how he makes out an obligation on the U.S: to enlarge the payments from the Treasy. in favor of those not embraced by the last Convention, more than of those abandoned by the preceding one, I am unable to divine. The fraud practised in the name of Preeble makes a hard case. In a legal view the loss I suppose falls on the Bankers. It seems equitable at the same time, considering the circumstances & the dilemma in which they stood, that they shoud not suffer. Congrs. alone can decide in their favor, if the law be agst. them, & equity be thought for them. The subject however lies rather with the Navy than the State Dept.

Yrs. with respectful attachment

James Madison.

RC (DLC); at foot of text: “The President”; endorsed by TJ as received from the State Department at Orange on 16 Aug. and “letters of Armstrong, Merry, Monroe, Claiborne, Sevier, Rhea, Clinton, Jones, Vail, Airth, Skipwith, Paris Commrs. Livingston, Gavino, Wichelhousen, Swan, Bp. Madison” and so recorded in SJL with Madison’s letters of 13 and 14 Aug. Enclosure: James Monroe to Madison, London, 18 June, enclosing papers received from the London house of Mackenzie & Glennie detailing a fraud committed against the United States in the name of Commodore Edward Preble amounting to £4,000; British affairs remain in flux; the king is indisposed, and advocates for a regency are gaining strength (Madison, Papers, Sec. of State Ser., 7:330). For the other enclosures, see Madison to TJ, 4 Aug.

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