John Jay Papers

From John Jay to Peter Augustus Jay, 17 May 1798

To Peter Augustus Jay

Albany 17 May 1798

Dear Peter

Your Letter of the 13 came to hand this morning—1 The Intermissions between the Interruptions I have since had, have be ^en^ so short, that I could not bestow much consideration on some of the Matters stated in it, and which demand mature and deliberate Reflection.

After having examined certain papers relative to the Land which Marvin desires to purchase, I will write to you on the subject— I cannot do it to day.

It is very proper that both you and Maria should visit our friends at Rye— you have been too long absent from there.

The Calculation and nature of the Bets you mention, cannot easily be accounted for— If they really believe they have succeeded, its an artifice to make money—2

The young men might have managed better—but they will learn— perhaps a standing Committee composed of members judiciously selected from the different classes of Citizens, would if proposed and agreed upon, afford an opportunity of so extending the circle as to comprehend those who remain out— If such an Idea should be adopted, some soothing and preparatory measures will doubtless be expedient. no act should be equivalent to an Enlistmt. and unless the address really bears that Construction, an explanatory Resolution by the standing committee, expressing the Sense in which they understand it, would probably remove that objection.

no becoming and proper means should be omitted to satisfy convince and attract the mechanics &c— of whom are armies composed?

To assemble for the purpose of military discipline, will ^not only^ in that view be useful—but also in others, if the privates attend— They may then be taught other Things besides the manual Exercises, & to see things as they really are—

For military men, in that capacity, to approve or censure the measures of Govt. by acts of their Body assembled to deliberate on those subjects, cannot in my opinion be proper—3

I am as yet at a Loss how to advise respecting the Cockades— perhaps for the present it might not be amiss for the military to adopt them—and for the standing committee of the young men to recommend them to the members of their Society, but not until measures have been taken to render it as comprehensive as possible— I give these Remarks as hints not as opinions— under present circumstances perhaps the elderly and meer mohair Citizens should not be pressed to wear cockades by mohair citizens I mean those who are not included within any military description—4 They who from honest motives are in the Act of passing, or preparing to pass, from one party to another have more than ordinary sensibility and are not to be roughly handled—5

I am a little sollicitous to see the address of our young Citizens — The next Ph[iladelphi]a. Papers will probably contain it—6

The Citizens of this place assembled yesterday and tho both parties attended, there was no opposition to the Resolutions proposed & carried7

We are all well— I wrote to you by the last post—and your mama wrote to maria by the Lt. Govr.8 I am Dr. Peter your affte. Father

John Jay

ALS, NNC (EJ: 90220). Addressed: “Mr Peter Augustus Jay— / at Mr. Munro’s— Broadway / New York”. Endorsed: “Letter from papa / Albany 17 May 1798 / and. 6 June”. Various mathematical calculations are also written on the address page. For PAJ’s reply of 7 [not 6] June, see ALS, NNC (EJ: 06068); Dft, NNC (EJ: 10052).

2For RRL’s ultimate defeat, see the editorial note “John Jay Wins Reelection as Governor in 1798,” above.

3For JJ’s engagement with the state militia, see the editorial note “Militia Matters in New York State,” above.

4“Mohair” is military slang for a civilian; that is a man in the civil line, a townsman, or tradesman, derived from the mohair buttons worn by persons of those descriptions or any others not in the army; the buttons of military men being always of metal. OED description begins Oxford English Dictionary description ends , citing the 1785 work Francis Grose, A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue vol. 1 (London, 1785).

5On the rise of Young Men’s groups supporting JA’s defense program in the aftermath of the XYZ affair, see PAJ’s letter to JJ of 13 May 1798, and note 4, above.

6For citations to the text of the address of the New York Young Men’s Society, drafted by PAJ, see PAJ to JJ, 13 May 1798, note 4, above.

7On the general meeting of the Citizens of Albany on 16 May, chaired by Albany Mayor Abraham Ten Broeck, and the resolutions carried, see Albany Centinel, and Argus, Greenleaf’s New Daily Advertiser (New York), and Daily Advertiser (New York), all 22 May 1798. The meeting authorized a committee to prepare an address to President Adams expressive of the sentiments conveyed in the resolutions. The address pledging “to sustain with energy the Constituted Authorities of our Country against all the machinations of its enemies, whether foreign or domestic” was signed by about eight hundred freeholders and electors and transmitted to Henry Glen for presentation to the president. See New-York Gazette, 31 May 1798.

8For JJ’s previous letter, see JJ to PAJ, 10 May 1798, above. SLJ’s letter to Maria Jay has not been found.

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