Benjamin Franklin Papers

“A Virginian”: Second Reply to Mr. Pym, 5 September 1765

“A Virginian”: Second Reply to Mr. Pym

Printed in Lloyd’s Evening Post, And British Chronicle, September 9–11, 1765.

The grounds for believing that this second letter by “A Virginian” was written by Franklin are indicated in the headnote to the first letter by the same writer, above, pp. 243–6. This piece is clearly an amplification of the other; the three intervening issues of Lloyd’s Evening Post contain no response by “William Pym” or any other correspondent to the “Virginian’s” first reply.

To the Editor of Lloyd’s Evening Post.

Sept. 5, 1765.


The only reason I had for troubling you with my former letter, was to take off any impressions that might be received from one that taxes the colonies with ingratitude; which I find has been again and again repeated. I wish some abler pen had attempted to remove that, as well as some other prejudices; but no one having done so, as ingratitude is so odious, I cannot be unconcerned, when my countrymen are unjustly charged with it. If the Americans think themselves deprived of one of their most essential rights, are they ungrateful when they resent it, only because their grievance proceeds from their benefactors? Suppose I am under the greatest obligation to another, who has relieved me from distress, if he afterwards claims a right to take from me what he pleases without my consent, and I think he has no such right, am I ungrateful for opposing him? No; the very attempt, when he knew my heart was overflowing with gratitude, would rather increase my opposition. The sum demanded being great or small, makes no difference in the case; and yet the smallness of the late tax is urged as a reason why the error of the Americans must proceed from the heart, and not from the understanding. By this it is plain, that the opposition of the Virginians may be consistent with their having the most grateful sentiments. In fact, they are thankful for the favours they have received; have always had a great respect for the Parliament, and love good order and government; and yet they have expressed their disapprobation of some measures (perhaps too indecently, for the reasons above-mentioned.) I think they have rather shewn a great effort of virtue, in not suffering their respect for the mother country, nor gratitude for her favours, to overballance the duty they owed to their constituents. It is much to be wished that some arguments were used that might set the right of the Parliament in clear view; for as the Americans are a reasonable people, they would acknowledge their error when convinced of it. However, I find some here have very strange opinions about them. What a picture is drawn of the Gentlemen there, as if they were not as good Citizens, and had not as much humanity as the Gentlemen in England.3 There are some here, I dare say, and in all other countries, who have not much humanity, &c. but that is no reason why they are so in general. Accounts are taken from travellers, and from superficial observers, and such judge of a Community very often by a few individuals.

As to laws for the British Parliament being drawn up in the wilds of America, it is surely the wildest thought that ever was entertained. The case, in short, I take to be this; it is imagined, that the Americans will shortly throw off their allegiance to their Sovereign, and under that persuasion it is thought necessary to curb them. But it should be considered, that no people under easy circumstances ever desire a change of Government.4 It is not a thing ever wantonly undertaken; and even if some ambitious men, from selfish views, should desire it; unless there be some great grievance, they can have no handle to make use of for the purpose; so that nothing but some violent measure here, such as the abolition of their assemblies, will produce any such defection. To abolish their assemblies is a proposition of the most serious nature, and should be attended to by every well wisher to Great Britain. I should be glad to know what ill consequence would follow, if things were to remain upon their old footing. The colonies would still be dependent; they could pass no laws without the consent of the King, nor would they desire it; the form of the English Government is universally admired; nor can they expect to frame a better. The trade of the nation has hitherto increased with the growth of the colonies. If these flourish more, in the same proportion will the trade, the riches, and strength of the nation also increase. But this fine prospect is likely to be destroyed from a groundless jealousy; and to avoid an imaginary evil, a proposition is made that may be productive of a real one. Can it be supposed, that a people who have enjoyed the right of making laws among themselves for one hundred and fifty years——but I will say no more, only that such a step would be big with the fate of Britain and her sons.

I am, Sir, your most humble servant,

A Virginian.

P.S. Quaere. Are the children of English parents that are born in foreign parts of course subjects to our King? I ask only for information, though I am inclined to think they are not. And if they are not so naturally, what is it can make them so but their own consent? and if the first settlers then, that went over to America, had charters from the King, by which they and their posterity were to form assemblies, make laws, &c. is it not a kind of compact by which their posterity agree to become his subjects upon those conditions? Now if these charters can be made void by an Act of Parliament, will that very Act destroy the Compact by which they became subjects?5 I may be wrong in this particular, and, if I am, shall be glad to be set right in it.

[Note numbering follows the Franklin Papers source.]

3Neither this point nor the one at the beginning of the next paragraph is based on any direct statement in the “Pym” letter. The writer may here be responding to criticisms of the colonies in some unidentified letter or letters in other newspapers, or he may be simply answering remarks that had come to his notice in general conversation in London.

4Here BF (if he was indeed the author of the letter) had to tread very lightly: the real purpose of his second mission to Great Britain was precisely that of bringing about a change in the government of Pennsylvania.

5Here again BF would be on delicate ground, for he was hoping to bring about the ending of government under William Penn’s charter from Charles II. The Assembly’s petition had not been addressed to Parliament, however, but to the King, and its purpose was to persuade George III to carry through the agreement made many years before under which the Crown would buy out Penn’s rights for a stipulated monetary payment. No act of Parliament would have been necessary, except possibly to appropriate the remainder of the purchase price, on which an initial payment had been made.

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