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From James Madison to James Monroe, 4 August 1816

To James Monroe

Montpellier Aug. 4. 1816.

Dear Sir

I recd. yesterday the 2 letters from Onis herewith returned,1 and today copies of the papers transmitted by Mr. Crowninshield, which as the originals are in the Dept. I retain.2 The law of Nations, and our position in relation to the contest between Spain & Spanish America, will of course govern the reply to these representations.

The remarks of Judge Story as to the fisheries are valuable, and furnish some precise objects for discussion with the B. Govt. If Mr. B. will accede to the most favorable arrangement marked out, it may be well to close with him. Whether the one next best ought to be accepted, is a more delicate question; notwithstanding the opinion of Mr. Crowni[n]shi[e]ld on the subject. I do not think, in the present temper & situation of G.B. that delay, with a prudent conduct on our part will injure our prospects. And it appears after all, that the right to cure fish on the B. shores, the fish cured on them being in the proportion only of 1/5 or 1/6 of those caught by our vessels in those waters, is of less importance than was supposed. How far the waters within the marginal league have been used, and wd. be prohibited if not stipulated; is to be ascertained. On the whole, I still think, unless an arrangement likely to be satisfactory can be obtained, it will be better to prolong the negociation, than to cut it short from a despondence as to better terms. I observe that J. Story represents the Shores of Labradore as a good deal settled. If this be the fact and could appear in an arrangement of our use of them, we might accept the use of the shores without any implied surrender of our pretensions, which are limited to unsettled districts. Perhaps Mr. B. may be willing to make a partial arrangement, leaving open the negociation for its extension. If this can be done in a form, avoiding implications adverse to our claims, it wd. be a safe & might be an eligible course. It might be predicated on the want of full information, and the purpose of obtaining it. The sources of further information pointed at by the Judge, may deserve attention. Best respects & regards

James Madison

RC (DNA: RG 59, ML); FC (DLC). RC docketed by Graham. FC in John Payne Todd’s hand, docketed by JM.

1JM probably referred to letters sent to the State Department by Luis de Onís on 22 and 25 July 1816. For the former letter, John Graham provided a summary translation stating that Onís had complained of the arrival of rebel Spanish officers in Baltimore on a vessel that intended to cruise against Spanish commerce, and he had requested that the vessel not be permitted to sail. In the latter letter Onís enclosed extracts from the intercepted correspondence of Spanish-American rebels, including that of José Manuel de Herrera and José Álvarez de Toledo y Dubois, and alleged that Capt. Daniel T. Patterson had cooperated with the rebels (DNA: RG 59, NFL, Spain).

2See the copy of Benjamin W. Crowninshield to Monroe, 25 July 1816, which had been sent to JM.

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