New York Assembly. Remarks on the
Quotas to be Assigned the Several Counties of New York
[New York, March 22, 1787]
Col. Hamilton did not suppose that any arguments would have much influence on the decision of this question.1 There is no criterion to go by and we fall into the greatest uncertainty—a gentleman has told us plainly, that he has been intriguing, and making the best bargain he could for his county.2 He would not say that New-York had made any conditions—he hoped that the intrigues might not have the effect which was sought. The county of Albany he said was always rated too low.3 It was only required to pay £7,000, with 70,000 inhabitants; while Suffolk, with only 14,000 paid £4,500. He asked if the house would permit intrigues to have such an effect. The county of Kings, which numbers only 3000 inhabitants, and contains 18,500 acres of land, is to pay £2400, Richmond county which is equally small, is also over rated; can this be right? New-York had ever been rated too high. One of the gentlemen from New-York had proposed 12,0004 from a mere dispair of coming at an equality, but this sum is too high. He asked if it was justice that the city and county of New-York, which was not a tenth part of the value, or population of the state, should bear one fourth of its burthens.5 He hoped this would be considered, and no partiality exhibited by the legislature.6
Col. Hamilton replied, observing that the gentleman (Mr. Taylor) had intimated they had intrigued together on this subject.7 The intriguing amounted to nothing more he said, than that they had conversed together on the subject. He believed that that gentleman had been the most successful: he had raised much the strongest party. He would only observe, that he had made a most falacious calculation respecting New-York. There is not 1000 houses in New-York that are worth £1500 each.8 This was far short of the enormous sum mentioned. The county of Albany he knew was worth 2,000,000. He said if it was required, he would make the calculation, and prove that Albany county was worth more than New-York. He believed that every gentleman who would lay his hand on his heart, and vote according to his conscience, would declare, that one fourth part of the taxes, was too great a proportion for New-York. He asked if the citizens of New-York, had not also met with losses? Was not a great part of the city burned? Had not the enemy despoiled their property? And had they not for a long time occupied their city, while they were suffering in exile? Gentlemen, certainly knew this; and it was a subject worthy of their attention.9
Mr. Hamilton said he had made a calculation of a tax of £200,000 on the improved lands in this state, and found that 2/6. an acre would be about the proportion of that tax, knowing this, would it be right to make Kings County pay the same proportion of a £50,000 tax as ought to be paid on a tax of 200,000. It was even more than 2s 6d.—£2,400 would make it as 7d per acre.
Mr. Lansing had no objection if New-York would take upon itself, that proportion of which they wished Kings County relieved.
Mr. Hamilton would even consent to this if the house could think that New-York should bear all the burthen of the State.
The [New York] Daily Advertiser, March 27, 1787.
1. After the rejection of the proposed “Act for Raising Certain Yearly Taxes Within This State,” drafted by H (see draft of the act, February 9, 1787), the Assembly, as it had in previous years, assigned each county a quota of the money to be raised by taxes. On March 22 the question of the quotas to be assigned to the counties of New York and Albany was debated. William Malcom moved that the quota of New York County be £12,000. H spoke after John Lansing, Jr., had seconded Malcom’s motion.
2. John Tayler of Albany County had said that “he held a paper in his hand which he supposed would be the proportions of the different counties, as near as he could find out the sentiments of the house. He confessed that taxing in this way, was a system of intrigue, and supposed every county had made the best bargain it could” (The Daily Advertiser, March 27, 1787).
3. John Tayler argued that reductions in the quotas of other counties were added to the quota of Albany County.
4. H referred to the proposal of William Malcom.
5. £50,000 was the sum to be raised by the several counties of the state.
6. John Tayler, replying to H’s remarks, said that “Perhaps he had expressed himself improperly when he used the word intrigue, but if not, that gentleman knows that he and I have intrigued with each other” (The Daily Advertiser, March 27, 1787).
7. See note 6.
8. H replied to Tayler’s assertion “that supposing the city and county of New-York to contain 5,000 houses 4,000 of which he would estimate at £1500, this computation, allowing the residue of the houses, the lands and other property to be included, he did not suppose to be very erroneous, by this estimation, 6,000,000 would be amount” of the state assessment which should be assigned New York (The Daily Advertiser, March 27, 1787).
9. At the conclusion of H’s remarks, the Assembly voted a quota of £13,000 for New York County. The Assembly then debated the amount to be levied on Albany County. H moved that the sum be £5,800, but his motion was defeated and the sum of £5,400 was approved.