James Madison Papers

From James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, 22 September 1804

To Thomas Jefferson

Sep. 22. 1804

Dear Sir

I inclose the letter alluded to in my last from Mr. Merry to Mr. Wagner;1 also a letter from Barney2 & one from L. Harris.3 I have authorized Mr. W. to forward any more information relating to Barney’s claims, to Mr Skipwith, reminding him that no further interposition could be made, unless you should so decide. A patronage of individual claims, besides its interference with the functions of the Board of Comrs., is the more delicate as a favorable decision in one case, might be rendered, by the limitation of the sum to be dispensed, injurious in others. As to the Citizenship of Barney, it is probably sound, and can therefore be shewn by himself. How far it may have been suspended quoad4 certain purposes by his temporary relations or special transactions, is a question more proper for judicial than Executive enquiry, and therefore falls naturally within that of the Board. When it appeared that the Board was leaning to an opinion that a foreign partnership in one business, disqualified a claimant on the score of another altogether distinct, the subject was with others committed to Mr. Livingston,5 for arrangement with the French Govt. The letter from Harris is a further proof of the kindness of the Emperor Alexander. I wish however that with this obliging temper, there may not be blended some little view of drawing the U. S. into the politics of Russia. Considering the jealousy of other powers of Russia, and the possibility that Russia may get into the war, any formal connection of the U. S. with the Porte under the auspices too of Russia, is a step suggesting much caution. The letter written last to our Consul will I hope put an end to his enterprizing patriotism.6 I inclose Pinkney’s last communications7 which you have already seen, that they may be at hand, if wanted during your talk with Yrujo.

The diameter of the Boxes for my pipes is three inches & a half: the breadth of the ring 3 inches, admitting an entrance of 1½ inches into the ends of the logs, where they make a good joint. I omitted to mention before I left you, that Dr. Winston8 on learning that you wd. want laborers promised to decide as soon as he reached Hanover whither he was bound, whether he could spare any & how many, and write to me immediately on the subject. Yrs. always with respectful attachmt

James Madison

RC (DLC: Jefferson Papers). Docketed by Jefferson as received 25 Sept.

1JM did not allude to a letter from Anthony Merry to Jacob Wagner in his own 8 Sept. letter to Jefferson but may have mentioned it during his visit to Monticello in mid-September. For the Merry letter, see Wagner to JM, 15 and 18 Sept. 1804.

2Letter not found. For Joshua Barney’s complaints about the rejection of his claim against France and his assertion of his citizenship, and JM’s reply, see Barney to JM, 6 Aug. 1804, and JM to Barney, 30 Aug. 1804, PJM-SS description begins Robert J. Brugger et al., eds., The Papers of James Madison: Secretary of State Series (7 vols. to date; Charlottesville, Va., 1986–). description ends , 7:565–66 and nn. 1–3, 655.

3See Wagner to JM, 18 Sept. 1804, and n. 4.

4Quoad: with respect to.

5See JM to Robert R. Livingston, 31 Jan. 1804, PJM-SS description begins Robert J. Brugger et al., eds., The Papers of James Madison: Secretary of State Series (7 vols. to date; Charlottesville, Va., 1986–). description ends , 6:410. For Livingston’s discussion of this subject with the board, see Mercer, Barnet, and Maclure to JM, 5 May 1804, ibid., 7:165 and n. 1.

6See JM to Levett Harris, 26 June 1804, ibid., 7:374.

7One of the letters JM referred to may have been Pinckney’s dispatch of 4 June 1804 (ibid., 7:281–84).

8Dr. Isaac Winston (ca. 1772–1867) was the son of Dolley Madison’s maternal aunt, Lucy Coles Winston, and her husband Isaac (1745–1821) of Hanover County, Virginia. Dr. Winston married Susan Dade in 1800 and practiced in Alexandria, Virginia (Glossary, The Dolley Madison Digital Edition, ed. Holly C. Shulman (Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press, 2004), http://rotunda.upress.virginia.edu/dmde/).

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