John Jay Papers

To John Jay from John Adams, 16 May 1786

From John Adams

Grosvenor Square 16. May 1786

Dear Sir

Last night I was honored with your letter of April 7th.1 and am happy to find that Twelve States, have granted to Congress the Impost. New York I am persuaded will not long withhold her Assent,2 because, that in addition to all the other Arguments in favour of the measure, she will now have to consider that all the Blame of Consequences must now rest upon her, and she would find this alone, a greater Burthen than the Impost. This Measure alone, as soon as it is compleated will have a great effect, and instantly raise the United States in the Consideration of Europe, and especially of England. Its beneficial Effects will be soon felt in America, by producing a Circulation of ^that^ Property, the long Stagnation of which, has been a principal Cause of the Distress of the Community. The States jointly and Severally, would find immediate Benefits from establishing Taxes to pay the whole Interest of their Debts, those of the Confederation as well as those of particular States—The Interest of Money would instantly be lowered, and Money ^Capitals^ be employed in Manufactures & Commerce that are now at Usury. It is no Paradox to say, that every Man would find himself the richer, the more Taxes he pays, untill and this Rule must hold good untill every Creditor the Taxes shall amount to a sum sufficient to discharge the Interest due to every Creditor, in the Community.

The Power to regulate the Commerce of the whole, will not probably be long withheld from Congress, and when that point shall be agreed to, You will begin to hear a cry in England for a Treaty. Like Daniel Defoes Game Cock, among the Horses Feet, it will be, “Pray Gentlemen dont let us tread upon one another.”—3

You have, I hope before now, Lord Carmarthens Answer of Feb. 28. to my memorial of Nov. 30.—4 I had determined in my own Mind not “to demand a Categorical Answer without the further orders of Congress,” and it is a great Satisfaction to find your opinion coincide. It is now with Congress to deliberate what Answer, they should make to his Lordship and for my own Part I dont see what Answer they can give untill they know the sense of Massachusetts, New York Virginia and South Carolina.5 With the highest Regard I have the Honour to be Sir your most obedient humble Servant

John Adams

His Excellency John Jay Secretary of State6

DS, DNA: PCC, item 84, 6: 179–81 (EJ: 11888); LbkC, DNA: PCC, item 104, 6: 104–6; DC, description begins William A. Weaver, ed., Diplomatic Correspondence of the United States of America, from the Signing of the Definitive Treaty of Peace, 10th September, 1783, to the Adoption of the Constitution, March 4, 1789 (7 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1833–34) description ends 5: 117–19.

1Not found. The OFA Journal description begins Daily Journals, Office of Foreign Affairs, 1784–1790, 2 vols., Papers of the Continental Congress, RG 360, item 127, National Archives (M247). Accessed Fold3.com. description ends for 7 Apr. (EJ: 3762) indicates that JJ wrote a private letter to JA on this date and added the following postscript in code: “In my Opinion a categorical Answer to your Memorial should not be pressed without the further Order of Congress.”

2New York never ratified the impost on terms acceptable to Congress. See Ferguson, Power of the Purse, description begins E. James Ferguson, The Power of the Purse: A History of American Public Finance, 1776–1790 (Chapel Hill, N.C., 1961) description ends 239–40.

3From Daniel Defoe, The Shortest-Way with the Dissenters (London, 1702).

4For JA’s memorial of 30 Nov. 1785, and Carmarthen’s reply of 28 Feb. 1786, see JCC, description begins Worthington C. Ford et al., eds., Journals of the Continental Congress, 1774–1789 (34 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1904–37) description ends 31: 781–97. JA forwarded copies of his memorial in his letters to JJ of 6 Dec. (above) and 9 Dec. 1785; he reported on and sent a copy of Carmarthen’s reply of 28 Feb. in his letters to JJ of 16 and 27 June 1786. DNA: PCC, item 84, 6: 13–16, 299–304, 311–12 (EJ: 11872, 11892, 11894).

5See the editorial note “Anglo-American Relations,” above.

6This letter was received on 18 July and referred to Congress on 19 July. JJ replied to JA on 19 Aug. OFA Journal description begins Daily Journals, Office of Foreign Affairs, 1784–1790, 2 vols., Papers of the Continental Congress, RG 360, item 127, National Archives (M247). Accessed Fold3.com. description ends , July 1786, 3–4 (EJ: 3765); JJ to the President of Congress, 19 July, LS, DNA: PCC, item 80, 3: 29–30 (EJ: 237); JJ to JA, 19 Aug. 1786, DNA: Foreign Letters description begins Foreign Letters of the Continental Congress and Department of State, 1785–1790, RG 59, item 121, National Archives (M61). Accessed on Fold3.com. description ends , 204–5 (EJ: 2470).

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