John Jay Papers

Cadwallader Colden II: Notes of a Conference with John Jay, 31 May 1777

Cadwallader Colden II:
Notes of a Conference with John Jay

[Kingston, May 31st, 1777]

I Sent my Son with the forgoing Letter to Mr Jay who was then in Council & he bid him tell me that he would wait on me Emediately— He accordingly soon Came. When he informed me that he had Laid my Letter before the Council, & that they had bid him to tell me that their former Resolution must take Place, I only Reply’d that I thought it exceeding hard, and asked him what was the Charge against me he Said that he know of None but Surmised that wanted foundation of My haveing Given Directions to an officer Charged with Dispatches from Canada to Gen How, who had been with Rosses Party how to pass the Guards and that I had Stimulated Rosse when in Jayl to behave as he did telling him that they Dare not put him to Death.1 I told him that I had had no acquaintance with Rosse till I See him in the Jayl the Day before he was Executed, And so far from giveing him any Encouragement that he would not Die I had Done all in my Power to Prepare him for it as I thought he appeard to be too Litle Concerned about it himself, which he Said was so far well done. I then told him that My Wife had great Concern to see me and it would be a great Stroke to her to have me sent away from her so Sudenly & Said that if I might be indulged to Stay with her another Day I should take it kind, he answered, that that was so Reasonable that he thought it would not be Denied me & said he Would go and Propose it to the Council— He Accordingly Went to the Council and Returnd Emediately and told me that the Council had agreed to Postpone their order for my going bord the Vessel till Tuesday, for which I thanked him, he then Desired to See my Wife I took him into the Room where to her where he Satt a Quarter of an hour & when indeed some part of the Conversation that I have already Related Passed.

C, in Colden’s hand, CSmH: Cadwallader Colden II Journal (EJ: 13165). This note in Colden’s journal is entered immediately after his letter to Jay of 31 May and before an entry for 2 June.

1Jacobus Rose is here referred to as Rosse. Although Colden never admitted it to New York officials, once exiled to New York City, he claimed credit for assisting the British officer carrying dispatches to General William Howe. Colden was imprisoned aboard the prison ship until July, when he was paroled, first in Kingston, then at Hurley. Fingerhut, Survivor description begins Eugene R. Fingerhut, Survivor: Cadwallader Colden II in Revolutionary America (Los Angeles, 1983) description ends , 68, 72–73, 102–3.

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