Dialogues of the Dead, [ca. 22 April 1790]
Dialogues of the Dead
[ca. 22 April 1790]1
Dialogues of the dead.
Charlemain Frederick, Rousseau Otis.
Rousseau. have you Seen Franklin, Since he passed the River? or has the Boat been too full of Passengers to bring him over?
Otis. I know not.— I have very little Curiosity to know.— I care nothing have no solicitude for Steel Rods nor
Iron Points— I am very glad his Points were not over my head: They might have detained
me in the Regions of Mire, for twenty or thirty Years longer. The fluctuating flashes
and flourishes of chimical and electrical Experiments have no Charms for me. They are as transitory as Sparks meteors, as fireflies Catterpillars and Sea shells. all this is the frivolity and Foppery of sciene.—
It is Morality! eternal Morality, it is permanent Intelligence, it is the Policy and Divinity of the Universe! that has my Devotion The Intellectual and Moral
World. These have ever [commanded] my Attention and Devotion.
Rousseau. They were mine too
And mine— But these are very apt to have the Same Effect upon all Men as they had upon
Us.— They produce a little Extravagance, often
produce a Melancholly then an Extravagance and at last a Delirium
Frederick But had not Franklin a Genius for Morals?
Otis. He told some very pretty moral Tales from the head—and Some
very immoral ones from the heart. but his heart I
never liked him: so if you please We will change the subject. Populus Vult Decipi,
decipiatur was his Maxim2
Frederick. With all my heart—I never thought any Thing of him, as a Politician.— Congress forced me to make a Treaty with him against my Inclination.— indeed his Philosophy never made any Impression on me.— it was chiefly hypothetical and conjectural— I did not think it worth my Notice in my History of my own time. My Attention was drawn to others.
Otis. indeed my Pride was not a little flattered at the Notice,
taken by so great a Prince of a Character whom
Nation which I had so great a hand in forming.
Fredrick.— Compliments are not the Ton here—if they were I should
be at no loss to return yours with Interest.— You have put all our crowned heads to
the blush. We have done nothing in Comparison with you. Our successors upon Earth must
all go to school to your Pupils, who went to school to you.— as to myself, I feel
Small and humble in your Presence— at infinite hazard, Pains and Anxiety I scattered
Blood Horror and Desolation round about me: and indeed was thought myself obliged to do so in self Defence. I was the greatest
Warrior and statesman in Europe: but if Effects are to be the Measure of Grandeur you
should be admitted the Greatest statesman that ever lived. Your Town of Boston has
done more than Imperial or Republican Rome: and your Harvard Colledge, than the school
of Cujacius and all the Doctors of the Sarbonne. Even my Brother Charlemain must
acknowledge his Inferiority to You.
Charlemain. Very true.— I cannot recollect my own Grandeur my
Vast Views, my unbounded designs, and my wonderful success, without blushing. The
detestible Maxim, Mr Otis which you imputed to one of your Contemporaries, Populus Vult decipi,
decipiatur, was my Maxim and I owed to it most of my Greatness.— Leo gave me the Title
of Cæsar and Augustus, and Magnus: and instituted that Superstitious Farce of
Consecration, which cheated all Europe for Nine
many hundred Years. I, in my turn, tranferred to the Pope, the Authority which the
Roman senate and People had anciently exercised of electing and confirming the
Emperors. This infamous Bargain, as contemptible as the Artifices of two Horse Jockeys, establishd the temporal and spiritual
Monarchies of Europe for near—1000 many hundreds
of Years— But Providence reserved for You the honour of beginning a system of Policy,
which has already almost and will infallibly e’er long totally overturn the whole
Conspiracy of Charlemain and Leo.
Otis. Your Majesties do me too much Honour. I lived and Acted it
is true in a most important Moment. I was fashioned by Providence as a very proper
Wedge to split a very hard Knot.— But I was only one of many. Rousseau was our Friend Rousseau had no small share
in this Revolution.
Rousseau. I did nothing more than propagate the Principles of Lock. and Voltaire himself, whom I never loved nor esteemed very much did as much as I did.
Frederick. The bewetching Charms of Voltaies Wit, and the enchanting Graces of your Eloquence, made his and your Writings universally read; and as you both filled every Volume and almost every Page with some Recommendation of Liberty and Toleration; your Writings contributed very much to propagate such sentiments among all Mankind. But Reason Wit, Eloquence can do no great Things. Otis began a vast system of Policy which has sett the Reason and the Passions of all Men at Work to promote your Principles.
Rousseau. My Principles were those of Lock.— But I Swallowed Lock with too little Rumination.— Otis’s Pupils the Americans have convinced Me, that Lock and I, though our Principles of Liberty were good, were totally mistaken in our Ideas of Government, and the Frame necessary to produce and preserve equal Laws.
Otis. This always surprized me. I was enraptured with the sagacity of Lock and the Eloquence of Rousseau— Yet you seemed to me, never to have considered the human heart or the History of the World. how could an Observation so obvious, escape You.— The Passions of the human heart are insatiable. an Interest unballanced; a Passion uncontrouled, in society, must produce disorder and Tyranny. You have nothing to do therefore to preserve equal Laws but to provide a Check for evey Passion, a Reaction to every Action a Controul to every Interest, which counteracts the Laws.
Rousseau.— it is now very plain to me—but like my Master Lock I did not see it, when on Earth.
Otis. Your Error, As well as your Masters, have been may be corrected: but there are others
more dangerous still, which have not which may be
more difficult to eradicate.— and here I cannot acquit your Majesty of Prussia.— I
fear that some other Errors may do more harm than the Intrigue of Charlemain, which he
just now So candidly confessed and so ingenuously repented. I mean the Renunciation of
a future state, and the Tendency to deny or doubt the moral Government of the World,
and the Existence of an all perfect Intelligence. This august Company must allow me,
to do more honour to Palestine and Jerusalem, than You have done to Boston and
Cambridge. These Places in my Opinion would have no merit at all, if they had not
respected those.— Thou shalt love the supream with all thy heart and thy Neighbour as
thyself, is a Maxim of eternal Phylosophy. it is the sublime Principle of Right order
and Happiness in the Universe. Affection and Confidence in the Æternal, Resignation to
his Will and Affection and Beneficence to his Works as far as We are intelligent
active and free, must be Truth Duty and Felicity.— How then could such Characters as
these in this Company give any Countenance to Encyclopædists, Atheists and Theists, in
destroying or weakening the Faith of Mankind, in this divine Phylosophy?
Charlemain. A confused and uninlightened sense of these important Truths really was one of my Temptations to my unworthy Ma-neuvre with Leo. So much I must Say in Palliation of my enormous Error.
Frederick, Rousseau. We both stand convicted.
Frederick— I deserved to be
damned the extream of Punishment at least to
suffer long in Purgatory a very lasting Purgation: But am filled with
Gratitude equal to my Remorse. Gratitude that Goodness could forgive when Justice
might have punished.
Rousseau. I was less guilty than you—Yet I have infinite cause of Gratitude also.
Frederick and Rousseau.— If it were permitted We would chear-fully return to Earth and undergo the Pains and Anxieties of Life once more, if We might have an Opportunity of expiating our Faults by Warning Mankind against our Errors.
Quincy Nov. 24. 1813.
This little thing, was written at Richmond Hill, or Church Hill, where I lived in New York in 1789, in an Evening after the News arrived of Dr Franklins Death, and after I had retired to my Family, after presiding in the Senate of U. S. The moment when it was written is the most curious Circumstance attending it.
John Adams
MS (Adams Papers); docketed by JA: “Dialogue.”; notation by CFA: “Written in 1789. / See the memorandum of J A. at the end.”
1. News of Benjamin Franklin’s death from pleurisy on 17 April reached JA and Congress five days later. Imitating a literary genre popularized by the Syrian satirist Lucian of Samosata (b. ca. 120 A.D.) and, more recently, by the French writer Bernard Le Bovier de Fontenelle (1657–1757), JA imagined a conversation among four historical figures who awaited Franklin’s arrival in the afterlife: Charlemagne, Frederick II, Jean Jacques Rousseau, and James Otis. Another writer to experiment with this particular literary format was George Lyttelton, Baron Lyttelton, who published an example in 1760 that JA enjoyed ( , 19:78; ; ; ; , 10:293).
JA filed away this composition, which is published here for the first time. Over two decades later, while searching “among a heap of forgotten rubbish for another paper, it Struck my Eye,” JA wrote. He sent a copy to Mercy Otis Warren in Sept. 1813, remembering the piece as simply “the Effusion of a musing Moment.” She replied on 12 Sept., revealing that she had been “deeply affected” by JA’s essay: “The sketch in my hand in connection with some of the greatest actors who have exhibited their parts on this narrow stage of human action, is a proof of your correct knowledge of history and your capacity for comparing the ages of Charlemagne, Frederick the Great, Rousseau, and Otis, though in times so remote from each other, and drawing the results of their sentiments and transactions and the operation thereof on the moral conduct of mankind in our own age and in that of Posterity” (JA to Warren, 1 Sept., NHi:Gilder Lehrman Coll., on deposit;
, 73:386–387).2. The people want to be deceived, so let them be deceived.