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To John Jay from William Carmichael, 3 July 1782

From William Carmichael

Sn. Ildefonso 3 July 1782

Sir

I did myself the honor of addressing your Excy. at Bourdeaux from Aranjues the 28th May & from Madrid the 8th & 17th Ulto.1 I have not yet had the pleasure of hearing from you since your departure,2 but altho Anxious on this Subject, I impute your silence to the hurry and fatigue of your Voyage & your necessary occupations on reaching Paris, at which place I am informed by his Excy the Ct. de F. B. you are arrived & that you had already written to the Ct. de Aranda— I came hither yesterday, having waited at Madrid for the final arrangement of Mr Cabarrus’s Accts in Consequence of his Agreeing to the Alterations I proposed— They were not finished, and as I had remained several days at his Sollicitation, He could not Complain, & your Excy will have time to Consult with Doctor Franklin on his ability of accepting drafts necessary to discharge them, as I am determined to send them to you for your Approbation, if I have no directions to the Contrary.

I waited this Day on his Excy the Ct de F. B, whom I found in conversation with the french Embassador, which was long, and as I knew he would be much fatigued, and that he Expected the Imperial Ambassador & Russian Minister, who have lately recd. frequent Couriers, I shortened my visit. He gave me the Information above mentioned, and appointed me another day to confer with him, Observing that the Time was arrived that frequent Conversations on the Subject of our Affairs would be Expedient. Mr Del Campo is named by the King to accompany the Body of the Deceased Infanta to the Escurial & promised that on his return, he would talk with me about the Memorials you had presented on the Affairs alluded to in former Letters—

This day Mr Clonard a French Marine Officer arrived here from Cadiz where he landed the 28th Ulto. having left Cape Henry the last of May. He brings me one Letter from Mr Livingston, which refers me to his dispatches to you for Intelligence, and to Copies of papers, which altho he mentions to be Inclosed have not come to hand— There are large packets I am told for Doctor Franklin & Mr Barclay, in which perhaps yours may be inclosed, for Mr Clonard tells me he had none to your Address— You will love this Gentleman for his favorable opinion of our Country. My Letter is dated the 1st. of May & mentions nothing of General Carletons arrival or propositions. The Ct. de Montmorin Showed me one from the Chevalier de la Luzerne which advises that Congress had rejected the Overtures made by General Sir Guy Carleton, leaving to their Ministers at Paris the ajustment of a Treaty in Concert with their Allies This Intelligence gives great Satisfaction at Court, The King I am told spoke favorably at Dinner this ^day^ of the Conduct of our Country. Colonel Livingston had reached Philadelphia, after having been taken by the Enemy, But of this and Other particulars you will be better informed than myself on the Arrival of the Bearer who will set off this night— I had notice of his Departure late in the Afternoon, and I seize this Occasion of Inclosing you Copies No. 1 & 2 of my Letters of the 28th May & 8th of June, lest their Cyphers may have Occasioned their Detention— My letter of the 17th Ulto. related merely to the Arrival of a Vessel at Cadiz, that brought packets for Doctor Franklin Mr Adams Yr. Exy. & Myself, which Mr Harrison informed me by a letter of the 11 June were as he was told put into the Post Office there, but none for you or Myself have come to my hands— The only Intelligence I recd. were some news Papers the latest the 18th April sent me from Cadiz of which I cut out the most Material Passages & inclosed them to your Excy. I also again Intreated your Directions respecting your Mules & other Little Matters. You will oblige me by writing me early on these Subjects— Before I left Madrid, I advanced the Serts their wages until I could have your further Directions— I shall write you again by the Courier who will bring Intelligence of the Princess of Asturias delivery which is hourly expected. I beg you to present the proper Compliments for me to Mrs Jay & to such Friends at Paris as do me the honor to remember me.3 I have the honor to be Yr. Excys. Most Obedt & Humble Sert.

Wm. Carmichael

P. S. You will please to inform Doctor Franklin that I recd this day his Letter of the 11th June I shall thank him by Le Pin.4

His Excy John Jay

ALS, NNC (EJ: 7584).

1See the letters of 28 May and 8 June, JJSP, 2 description begins Elizabeth M. Nuxoll et al., eds., The Selected Papers of John Jay, Volume 2, 1780–82 (Charlottesville, Va., 2012) description ends : 795–99, which JJ acknowledged receiving in his letter to Carmichael of 3 Aug. 1782, below. JJ did not receive Carmichael’s letter of 17 June (not found).

2In a letter of 23 July, ALS, NNC (EJ: 7587), Carmichael again complained that he had not yet heard from JJ.

3JJ acknowledged receipt of this letter in his reply to Carmichael of 3 Aug. 1782, below.

4Letter not found.

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