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Extracts from Gilbert Livingston’s Notes of Debates, 16 July 1788

Extracts from Gilbert Livingston’s Notes of Debates

[[Poughkeepsie,] Wednesday 16th July— 1788—]

Jay— ment[io]ns a few reasons [for adjournment]— Lansg. supposes it would increase heats— some weight at first sight— this will depend on the temper with which we go home— if we go with an intention to investigate—it will have a different effect— the southern [counties] wish an adoption unlimited— the North wish conditions— if we go home and carry the proper information from both quarters—and give them a state of the business between us—with the general reasons for and against conditional amendments—… Jay— wishes to give time— Gent. on the other side would run any risk— risk to be recd. into the Union— this a serious risk indeed would it not be prudent to let their constituents consult, whether they will be willing with us to run this risk—…

Jay— Ment[ione]d this to shew the propriety of considering the Matter at home— reprobates [Thomas] Tredwell’s observation— yet pities him— he is almost consumed—…

AD, NN: Gilbert Livingston notes (EJ: 13430); DHRC description begins John P. Kaminski, Gaspare J. Saladino, Richard Leffler, Charles H. Schoenleber, and Margaret A. Hogan, eds. Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution (28 vols. to date; Madison, Wis., 1976–) description ends , 23: 2187, 2189, 2190. For the full notes of debates for 16 July, see DHRC description begins John P. Kaminski, Gaspare J. Saladino, Richard Leffler, Charles H. Schoenleber, and Margaret A. Hogan, eds. Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution (28 vols. to date; Madison, Wis., 1976–) description ends , 23: 2186–90.

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