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To Benjamin Franklin from Joseph Banks, 19 November 1784

From Joseph Banks

ALS: American Philosophical Society

Soho Square Novr. 19 1784

Dear Sir

I should long ago have returnd answers to your two Favors6 had I met with any thing in the Way of Science worthy of being Communicated to you little improvement has taken place in the course of these two months past & as I have resided all that time in Lincolnshire7 I have not been put into posession of the detail even of that Little.

The Whole of the middle Class of people here have been inconceivably amusd by the ascention of Lunardi & Blanchard & some of superior rank have Attended8 for my own part I had not my option being away from town but I shall not miss the next which ascends no more than I would Miss any other spectacle which was likely to amuse & not likely to be after exhibited we Lament in the R. Soc. that so little addition of Science has yet accrued from a discovery which certainly opend a new Field for enquiry & feel hurt that men who in the outset attempted to make us beleive he had got the dominion by this means over another Element has constantly hitherto been the abject Slave of that element whenever he has venturd to intrude himself into it.

I was sorry I was in the Countrey when your Grandson arrivd. I have had but little opportunity of paying my respects to him since I returnd.9 Count Castiglioni I have seen he appears a well bred & well informed young man he is at present in the Countrey laboring to acquire the english language which I fear his Countreymen find very dificult.

I am in great hopes that the dissentions of the Royal Society1 are at an End at least that the opposition will at last give way to the decided & continual majorities which have appeard against them. Convincd I do not expect any men to be whose whole Arguments have been founded & supported in misrepresentation in truth. Hutton did not like to Lose twenty pounds a year which he usd to receive without any trouble whatever. Horsley would have been glad to make himself President which I am convincd He thought easy & considerd as a good step towards a Bishoprick. Matys disapointments in Life tho all of his own seeking and arising from a perfect beleif that he is a man of very superior talents have renderd him so waspish that his cheif pleasure is stinging about with a feeble Pen which can scarce Penetrate the hide even of Bashfullness & the rest seemd to have espousd the matter as a party affair which they were afraid to desert. I have enclosd you a Pamphlet written by Dr. Kippis2 who you may remember living in great intimacy with the late Sir John Pringle it is fair & very well temperd but so very mealy mouthd that it will possibly be right to publish something else as no foreinger can conceive a man right who is not praisd.

Beleive me dear Sir with perfect Esteem Yours Faithfully

Jos: Banks

The Pamphlet is in Sheets. I have not been able to get one sewd up yet.

[Note numbering follows the Franklin Papers source.]

6The only extant letter from BF since Banks last wrote, on Aug. 13 (XLII, 497–13), is the one of Aug. 21, above. Banks’s mention of Luigi Castiglioni in the present letter suggests that BF may have recommended him to Banks, just as he had recommended him to Rush (Oct. 14, above).

7At his family estate at Revesby Abbey: ODNB.

8The Prince of Wales observed the preparations and launch of Lunardi’s balloon on Sept. 15 (XLII, 499n) at close range. Other prominent spectators included Lord North, Charles James Fox, Edmund Burke, and Richard Price, while Prime Minister Pitt and the king and queen were reported to have followed the flight from elsewhere: Morning Herald, and Daily Advertiser, Sept. 16, 1784; Vincent Lunardi, An Account of the First Aerial Voyage in England … (London, 1784), pp. [28], [31], 40, 43.

9Banks wrote to WTF on Nov. 19 asking him to convey the present letter and its enclosure to BF and apologizing that “his Absence in the Countrey prevented him from enjoying so much of the Pleasure of his Company as he Should have wishd.” APS.

1I.e., the challenge to Banks’s leadership in the winter of 1783–84: XLII, 72–3n.

2Andrew Kippis, Observations on the Late Contests in the Royal Society (London, 1784).

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