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The Baron von Thulemeier to the American Commissioners, 8 October 1784

The Baron von Thulemeier
to the American Commissioners

à la Haye le 8. Octobre 17841

Messieurs,

Je n’ai point différé de porter à la connoissance du Roi mon Maître les dispositions des Etats-Unis de l’Amérique pour la conclusion d’un Traité d’Amitié et de Commerce, que Vous m’avez fait connoître, Messieurs, par la lettre dont Vous m’avez honoré en date du 9. de Septembre Dernier. Sa Majesté ayant jugé à propos de me munir des Pleinpouvoirs requis pour donner au dit Traité toute la consistance desirable, je m’empresse à Vous en transmettre une copie.2 Je me rapellerai toujours avec une satisfaction toute particulière l’avantage qui m’a été attribué d’avoir concouru à former les liens qui subsisteront à l’avenir entre la Nation Prussienne et les Citoyens des Etats Unis d’Amérique. Il me paroît superflu, Messieurs, de Vous adresser une copie du Traité de Commerce en question, qui a fait l’objet des soins reunis de Monsieur Adams et des miens, d’autant plus que je ne doute aucunement que ce Ministre n’ait conservé l’exemplaire que j’ai vu entre ses mains.3 Je me ferai un devoir d’accélérer la conclusion de cette négociation, et je me flatte, Messieurs, que Vous voudrez bien me communiquer Vos idées sur la manière dont Vous desirerez Vous concerter avec moi. Le Roi apprendra d’ailleurs avec plaisir le choix que les Etats Unis d’Amérique auront fait de préférence de telle ou autre ville pour le commerce d’échange entre les negocians des deux nations. Stettin, Embden, places maritimes Prussiennes, quelques ports d’Hollande ou de France, rempliront également ce but.

J’ai l’honneur d’être avec la considération la plus distinguée / Messieurs, / Vôtre très humble et très obéissant Serviteur

de Thulemeier.

TRANSLATION

The Hague, 8 October 17841

Gentlemen

I wasted no time in bringing to the attention of my lord the king the dispositions of the United States of America for the conclusion of a treaty of friendship and commerce, of which you informed me, gentlemen, in the letter with which you honored me dated 9 September last. His Majesty judged it proper to furnish me with the full powers necessary to give the said treaty all the consistency desirable. I am hastening to transmit to you a copy.2 I will always remember with special satisfaction the privilege that was conferred on me of contributing to the formation of the bonds that will subsist in the future between the Prussian nation and the citizens of the United States of America. It appears to me superfluous, gentlemen, to address to you a copy of the treaty of commerce in question, which has been the object of the combined efforts of Mr. Adams and myself, the more as I have no doubt at all that that minister preserved the copy that I saw in his hands.3 I will make it a duty to press the conclusion of this negotiation, and I flatter myself, gentlemen, that you will be willing to communicate to me your ideas on the manner in which you will want to consult with me. The king in addition will learn with pleasure the choice of the United States indicating a preference for one city or another where the exchange of commerce between merchants of the two nations might take place. Stettin or Emden, Prussian ports of trade, as well as several Dutch or French ports could equally serve this end.

I have the honor of being with the deepest consideration, gentlemen, your very humble and very obedient servant

de Thulemeier.

RC (PCC, No. 86, f. 45–48); internal address: “Messieurs Adams, Francklin, Jefferson, / Ministres Plenipotentiaires des Etats / Unis d’Amérique à Paris.”; endorsed: “Hague. Oct 8th. 1784 / from / Baron Thulemeier / with / King of Prussias full Powers / to Mess. Adams, Franklin / and Jefferson.”; notation: “Prussia.”

1C. W. F. Dumas indicates in his 8 Oct. letter to JA (Adams Papers) that he forwarded this letter to David Humphreys for delivery to the commissioners. In the same letter to JA, Dumas enclosed his 8 Oct. letter to the president of Congress (PCC, No. 93, III, f. 41–43, No. 115B, f. 56–57; Dipl. Corr., 1783–1789 description begins The Diplomatic Correspondence of the United States of America, from … 1783, to … 1789, [ed. William A. Weaver], repr., Washington, D.C., 1837 [actually 1855]; 3 vols. description ends , 3:519–520) and another to Pieter Johan van Berckel. Dumas’ letter to Congress was largely devoted to the continuing Austro-Dutch conflict, but Dumas also noted that the Baron von Thulemeier had sent him a letter to be forwarded to the commissioners and that he had done so.

2For a copy, by Humphreys, of Thulemeier’s 30 Sept. commission conferring on him full powers to negotiate a commercial treaty with the United States, see PCC, No. 116, f. 64–66.

3For the draft Prussian-American treaty sent to JA by Thulemeier on 9 April and the [post 5 May] memorandum regarding changes to the draft treaty suggested by the American commissioners, see the Proposed Prussian-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce, [9 April – post 5 May], above. Contrary to Thulemeier’s expectations, negotiations were not resumed on the 9 April draft treaty but rather began afresh on a new draft that the commissioners sent to him on 10 Nov., for which see the Negotiation of the 10 September 1785 Prussian-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce, 10 Nov. 1784–14 March 1785, Editorial Note, below.

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