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From John Jay to John Witherspoon, 6 April 1784

To John Witherspoon

Chaillot near Paris 6th April 1784

Dear Sir

I had last Evening the Pleasure of recieving your Favor of the 27th. Ult—1 I congratulate You on your safe arrival, & sincerely wish that the same good Fortune may attend your Return.

While our Country remained part of the british Empire, there was no Impropriety in solliciting the Aid of our distant Brethren and fellow Subjects, for any liberal and public purpose.2 it was natural that the younger Branches of the political Family should request and expect the Assistance of the elder. But as the united States neither have, nor can have, such Relations with any nations in the world; as the Rank they hold and ought to assert, implies ability to provide for all the ordinary Objects of their Government; and as the Diffusion of Knowledge among a republican People is and ought to be one of the constant & most important of those Objects, I cannot think it consistent with the Dignity of a free and independent People to sollicit Donations for that or any other purpose, from the Subjects of any ^Prince or^ State whatever.

The Public with us, are in my opinion so deeply interested in the Education of our Citizens, that Universities &ca. ought no longer to be regarded in the Light of mere private Corporations— The Governmt. should extend to them their constant Care, and the State Treasuries afford them necessary Supplies—

The Success which might attend such applications in this Country, can only be matter of Conjecture: The raising money by Subscription has not been so customary in France as in Britain; and my opinion is, that you would collect very little—3 If indeed the Court should set the Example, and really wish to promote it, the Thing would then become fashionable, and I am inclined to think that even the Fashion of giving would have a great Run for a few weeks. As to Books—the Consideration that every american Student who, in a long lapse of Years, might open those Books, would read the name of the Donor; added to the Vanity of Authors, and others who may be zealous to extend the Reputation of french Literature, would probably procure you some— As to Apparatus—the best Instruments and Machines are made in England; and the greater as well as better part of those used here, are I am told brought from thence— I am much mistaken if Europe in general does not wish that we were less knowing than we are already—

But if it was probable that such applications would be attended with ever so great Success, yet as I think they can be properly made only in the United States, I could not prevail upon myself to advise the Experiment.—4

If however you should visit Paris, I assure you it will give me great Pleasure to see you, and to be instrumental in rendering it agreable to You. We have been fellow Labourers in the same Field, and if you come, we will rejoice together in celebrating “Harvest home”—5

With Respect to the disagreable voyage in which your Son shared with us, I wont say jubes renovare dolorem,6 because I am habituated to reflect on Events of that sort with Tranquillity. It was one of those however which tried all who were concerned in it, and I must do your Son the Justice to say that none of us preserved more Equanimity and good Humour throughout the whole than he did, and he had a full Share of unpleasant Circumstances, as well as some others of us. Mrs. Jay is obliged by your Remembrance, & presents her Compts. to you— I am Dear Sir your most obt. & very h’ble Servt

John Jay

The Honb. & Revd. Doctr. Witherspoon

ALS, NjP: Misc. Mss. (EJ: 4075); Dft, UkWC-A (EJ: 36). Endorsed. Copy, NjHi: Witherspoon (EJ: 2877). Endorsed.

1Witherspoon to JJ, 27 Mar. 1784, ALS, NNC (EJ: 7273). Witherspoon, president of the College of New Jersey (later Princeton University), was in London with Joseph Reed, attempting to raise funds and procure resources to rebuild the college, which had been badly damaged during the war. Withersoon reported his lack of success in Britain and asked JJ’s advice on the merits of seeking assistance in France. He sent a similar query to BF, whose reply of 5 Apr. 1784 was equally discouraging on the prospects for fundraising in France. On Witherspoon’s mission, see also Varnum Lansing Collins, President Witherspoon (2 vols., Princeton, N.J., 1925), 2: 138–43.

2On the pre-revolutionary efforts of Sir James Jay to raise money in Britain for Kings College (later Columbia University), see JJSP, 1 description begins Elizabeth M. Nuxoll et al., eds., The Selected Papers of John Jay: Volume 1, 1760–1779 (Charlottesville, Va., 2010) description ends : 5, 15, 25n1, 36, 37n2, 67n1.

3The remainder of this paragraph is missing in the Dft. Instead, here JJ wrote and excised: “The enlightening mankind and the carrying its Arts and Sciences to the darker Regions of the Earth, are topics on which you wd. find more ready to spend their ^Breath & their^ Ink than their money upon.”

4In his reply to JJ of 7 May 1784, ALS, NNC (EJ: 7274), Witherspoon, who had served in Congress with JJ, acknowledged the force of JJ’s arguments, indicated he would not be coming to France at that time, and forwarded letters he presented to French officials. In a postscript he added: “I seldom write Politics but just hint that I have some Reason to Suppose the United States will have yet Reason to cultivate the Friendship of the Court of France more than they at present suspect.”

5“Harvest home” was the traditional British and northern European festival held in September to celebrate the completion of the harvest.

6A shortened form of “Infandum, regina, jubes renovare dolorem”: “You command me, O Queen, to revive unspeakable grief.” Virgil, Aeneid 2: 3.

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