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To John Jay from Sarah Livingston Jay, 11 November 1794

From Sarah Livingston Jay

New Y. 11th. Novbr. 1794

My dr. Mr. Jay,

I was mortified by seeing in this morning’s Paper that Mr. Bayard had sailed the 8th. for London—1 had I been informed of his going, with what pleasure wd. I have written to you by him— By the same Paper I see advertised the Departure of a Vessel about the middle of the present month for London— it shall not be my fault if you do not hear from me by that— The last letter I’ve had the pleasure of receiving from you was dated the 24th. Augst.2 The Septbr. Mail is arrived in Town, but unfortunately there are no letters for me—nor have I heard of any letters that mention you— You know by experience my best beloved! how painful are the sensations of suspense, but let the causes of delay be what they will, never will I imagine your silence to proceed from indifference; too frequent have been the proofs to the Contrary for me ever to doubt yr. love or attention— A few days ago Mrs. Smith from B[edford]. call’d here to pay me a visit, I found her sociably disposed & listen’d to her information— she told me things were sadly neglected at the house upon the hill— The tenant of it living in an very improper manner with a young woman in the Neighbourhood, spending some times 2 or 3 days with her at her house & receiving visits from her as unsuitable at his own— the young woman (she told me) had kept one of the farm-horses all Summer at her father’s for her use & that the neighbours censure them both very much— With a great number of Cows, some of which are excellent he makes no butter but for his own use— & a number of annecdotes which I think discover inattention to business which I cannot but regret— I wrote to the Old Woman’s Son-in-law lately about flour &:, & in my letter dropt a hint that I fear’d in the hurry of business he had forgot his promise of writing to you, suggesting that it was not yet too late— Munro has not yet return-d from Albany, as he means to take B—[edfor]d in his way home, he will be able to tell you how your affairs there are conducted—

Your brother Fady is I believe offended with me— about a month ago he sent his Clerk here to ask me for the money for the tierce3 of spirits; I told the young man I would with pleasure pay for it, and asked for the Order— he told me he had none, but wd. give me his rect. I declined paying without the Order— half an hour after Moncrieffe call’d upon me & in like manner offer’d his rect. for the Money. I told Tommy that in his Uncle’s letter from Mr. Hilton he was requested by that gentleman to pay the money to Mrs. Hilton his Mother, & I s[ai]d. I was ready to pay it to her Order— A few days after Fady call’d here for his wife— his Countenance indicated displeasure— so you refused to pay for the Spirits says he— by no means sir I replyed, I only requested to have Mrs. Hilton’s order as an indemnification— Very well said yr. brother, I’ve pd. for it & shall charge my brother interest on the sum— I asked if that would not be rather hard as I had both money & inclination to pay & only wished to do yr. business regularly— from that time I’ve not seen him— I sent for your Nephew & acquainting him with what had pass’d, he approv’d my Conduct & advised that I should let it rest ’till he sent me Mrs. Hilton’s rect. or ’till you return’d— I received a beautiful letter to-day from Maria, written just before she left Morris-Town— I long for her next letter which will be from Bethlehem— her poor Aunt Symmes will have a disagreeable journey—4 Mrs. Ridley has not yet reached NYork— I have had some hopes that you would have re-cross’d the Atlantic before she had travel’d from Baltimore to this City— but an Advertisment in to-day’s paper relative to Mr. Bayard’s business in England, seems to suggest an Expectation of the President’s that Mr. Bayard will find you in Europe—5 If that should be the case, for Heaven’s sake my dr. Mr. Jay don’t risque a winter’s passage— At least don’t let any considerations about me & the family induce you to hazard what you do not approve, but do that only which you think best after consulting able Mariners— You must be convinced that it will give me infinite pleasure to re-embrace you & your son; but you may be assured that should your business demand your still longer detention, no exertion shall be omitted on my part to bear with fortitude the seperation, nor any thing neglected in my power to perform to lessen the injury your family & affairs might sustain from yr. absence— the 2d. of Novbr. I wrote you by Captn. Kemp & likewise sent you duplicates of 2 other letters—6 I sincerely hope he’ll arrive safe, & that letters from my dear son & yourself will e’er long inspire with new fortitude your ever affectionate wife—

Nothing new has taken place in our domestic arrangements, myself, the Children & servants enjoy health. All our particular friends are well— Mr. Kemp call’d in last evening— he requested to be particularly remembred to you— I ask’d him if he would not write, but he said he dar’d not take that liberty—

RC, NNC (EJ: 06563). Endorsed.

1Samuel Bayard of Philadelphia, formerly clerk to the Supreme Court, was appointed agent to deal with claims for British spoliations on American commerce in Oct. 1794. He had previously applied for the position of JJ’s secretary, taken by JT. See Samuel Bayard to AH, 23 Apr. 1794, PAH description begins Harold C. Syrett et al., eds., The Papers of Alexander Hamilton (27 vols.; New York, 1961–87) description ends , 16: 313–15. The New-Jersey Journal (Elizabethtown), of 12 Nov. 1794, reported, “On Friday morning last sailed from Philadelphia, bound for London, the ship Adriana, Capt. Fitzpatrick, with whom went passengers, Samuel Bayard, Esq. agent of claims and appeals for the United States, and family”. See John Sloss Hobart to JJ, 20 Nov. 1794, below. Bayard arrived in London on 11 Dec., and JJ reported his arrival in Falmouth to ER in a letter of 10 Dec. 1794, LS, DNA: Jay Despatches, 1794–95 (EJ: 04343).

2Letter not found.

3A tierce is defined as “an old measure of capacity equivalent to one third of a pipe; also a cask or vessel holding this quantity, usually of wine.” A pipe is “typically equal to two hogsheads or 63 wine gallons.” OED.

4Maria Jay to SLJ, 9 Nov. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 09694). On 1 Oct. 1794, SLJ wrote JJ of Maria Jay’s desire to attend the Moravian Seminary at Bethlehem. SLJ to JJ, 1 Oct. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 06561): “Maria has a long time had a great inclination to go to Bethlehem & has solicited me to write for admission for her — I told her that I had been inform’d the school was full & that they had the names of 60 Children who wished admission when vacancies occurred — When Judge Symmes was here, Bethlehem being mentioned in conversation Maria express’d her regret for the impossibility of gaining admission into the school there— the Judge told her that her Aunt, his daughter, & himself were to pass thro’ that place in their way to Cincinati & that if she would permit him to have the pleasure of introducing her to the directress of the society, he did not doubt being able to procure admission for her as the society were indebted to him for acts of friendship during the war, for which they had often expressed their gratitude & a desire of evincing it— upon this Maria renewed her intreaties, telling me she wished to make a greater proficiency in her studies than in her present situation she was able, & that she hoped by answering your expectations, to justify me to you for consenting— As You my dear Mr. Jay the guardian & Protector of our little flock, was too distant to be consulted in time for this only prospect of admission, I enquired of those most able to inform me what was best & was almost unanimously advised to embrace the proposal— I have done so, & sincerely hope it will meet your approbation— she is discreet, has a great desire to improve, & there I am told they have every opportunity. Mr. & Mrs. Arden have two daughters there to whom they mean to pay a visit about the time Maria is to go, & they have promised to take her under their protection in case they refuse to admit her—”. “Judge Symmes” is John Cleves Symmes (1742–1814), who had just married SLJ’s sister Susannah “Susan” Livingston in September [SLJ to JJ, 27 Sept. 1794, C, marked “Duplicate”, NNC (EJ: 06560)]. Symmes was a member of the Continental Congress from New Jersey, judge, and land speculator. He was also a friend of William Livingston. The Symmeses were on their way to his lands in Ohio. The Moravian Seminary (later Academy) was founded in 1742 as an all-female school by the Countess Benigna von Zinzendorf. After the Revolution, the school was opened to non-Moravians. The curriculum was rigorous, including academic subjects as well as needlework, with an emphasis on music and Christian piety. In addition to Maria and Louisa Arden, Maria’s classmates included Walter Livingston’s daughters, Kitty, Cornelia, and Harriet, as well as Catharine and Ann Livingston Reade. Maria was accepted in October [SLJ to JJ, 25 Oct. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 06538); and PJM to JJ, 4 Dec. 1794, Dft, NNMus (EJ: 00435)]. Ann Jay followed her sister to Bethlehem in 1796. William C. Reichel, A history of the Moravian Seminary for young ladies, at Bethlehem, Pa. With a catalogue of its pupils, 1785–1870 (Lancaster, Pa., 1901), 20–99, 346–50, 352. See also SLJ to Maria Jay, 12 Nov. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 06384); SLJ to Catharine Livingston Ridley, 25 Nov. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 06470); JJ to Maria Jay, 9 Dec. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 05939); and JJ to SLJ, 6 Mar. 1795, below.

5See “For the Information of Merchants.” Daily Advertiser (New York), 11 Nov. 1794.

6Probably SLJ to JJ, 1 Nov. 1794, ALS, NNC (EJ: 06562).

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