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To John Jay from Ferdinand Grand, 21 October 1780

From Ferdinand Grand

[Paris Oct 21st. 1780]

Sir

Had the Letters you honoured me with in August last required immediate reply, I should have been as punctual in answering them as I am now for that I just received.1 I am very unhappy to learn you can not benefit on the spot of the facility tendered you by the Court of Spain,2 So much more so that the nature of circumstances here does not admit of the least hope of Success. two many attempts, all vainless, have already been made for the good of your Credit, adding any more to the Number would be destructing it interely, at this particular Juncture chiefly, when our Government is about raising a sum of Money, much more inticing & advantageous in its conditions. This perplexing situation suggested me an Idea I communicated to Dr. Franklin, which he approved & put in immediate execution, that of writing to Mr. J. Adams now at Amsterm. to charge him of Sounding the Dutch dispositions, for success is most likely there, & Mr. Adams Abilities well fit to accelerate it.

Meanwhile it is highly important to avail yourself of the favourable dispositions of the Court of Spain & get it to authorise & charge the Marquis to help you in your finance Busyness, he writes me that without orders he can not take it upon him. It will be better for your Excellency not to consult ^him^ before making the application to Government,3 by giving this as my opinion I mean not to compromise ^you^ nor the friendship of the Marquis, who has of a Spaniard but the Circumspection.

You are not mistaken, Sir, in your belief to my Attachment for your country, more Zeal & activity in serving it could not have been given from my part ever since the beginning, my wish now is to have frequent Opportunities of evincing you of the true Esteem which I have conceived for your Excellency I have the honour to be Sir Your most obt. hble Servt.

Grand4

LS, NNC (EJ: 13145). Endorsed: “ . . . Ansd 1 Novr. 1780”. Tr, NN: Bancroft (EJ: 2797).

1None of these letters have been found, but see the notes to JJ to BF, 22 Sept., above.

2For the Spanish offer to guarantee loans raised by JJ to the amount of $150,000, or 3 million reales, see Gardoqui to JJ, 15 Sept.; and Notes on John Jay’s Conference with Floridablanca, 23 Sept., above.

3JJ quoted the above two paragraphs, beginning with “I am very unhappy” and covering two small omissions with “&c.,” in JJ to BF, 21 Feb. 1781, below.

4In his letter to BF of 21 Feb. 1781, below, JJ commented on and embedded a copy of his 1 Nov. 1780 reply to this letter, no other text of which has been found.

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