1To James Madison from George Joy, 30 March 1816 (Madison Papers)
There is a great dearth of news at this time from the U.S. and little doing here that has any relation to them. I am sorry that I never received any reply from you directly or indirectly on the subject of my proposition for an informal negociation with the King of France. The least encouragement of the measure from you, would, I have no doubt, have been seconded by Mr. Adams, who has known me...
2To James Madison from George Joy, 9 January 1816 (Abstract) (Madison Papers)
§ From George Joy. 9 January 1816, New England Coffee House London. “I have just heard of an opportunity of sending the enclosed Duplicates, by a fast sailing Vessel from Dover. Should both Copies arrive, one will be sufficient to transmit to Mr. Benjn: Joy.” Adds in a postscript: “The 1sts. are in the Nabby: Care of Mr: Gelston.” RC ( DLC : Rives Collection, Madison Papers). 1 p. Docketed on...
3To James Madison from George Joy, 6 January 1816 (Madison Papers)
I have sometimes been induced, after writing, to pass a Letter under your Eye. The enclosed however, tho’ containing some expressions that would not have been used in a direct Correspondence, has been written in that intention. It is perhaps all that I shall have time to say on the subject of which it treats; and as it’s duplicate, barring accidents, will reach America about the same time;...
4To James Madison from George Joy, 6 October 1815 (Madison Papers)
The Manifold Writer, which I seldom use, except with the aid of another Machine called a Copyist, is useful on particular occasion; and I wonder that it is not more used. An objection to it is however seen in the enclosed; the first half dozen lines of which being obscure, I shall transcribe at the foot of this letter. There is nothing here, worth communicating, that you will not see in the...
5To James Madison from George Joy, 27 September 1815 (Madison Papers)
There is one subject on which I ought to address a separate line to you; and I am glad of the opportunity presented by Mr: Langston, which I consider the best I have had for a long time. The question who is to be President, at the next election, is not unfrequent; and as the Idea is gone forth that it must not be a Virginian, and it has even been understood that Mr: Monroe will not stand for...
6To James Madison from George Joy, 5 July 1815 (Madison Papers)
Contrary to the information of Mr Adams, the Neptune sailed on the 18th. Ult; and I shall send my letter of the 17th with this to the Isle of Wight; where I have some friends embarking for Boston. As things have turned out I could not but regret in a late conversation with Mr A. that the chance of such an effort had not been tried; and I ought perhaps to say that without giving any...
7To James Madison from George Joy, 17 June 1815 (Madison Papers)
I have just parted from Mr Adams with whom I have had a tête à tête of five hours; and as he tells me the Neptune does not sail to morrow as reported, but on the contrary she will remain ’till the following Sunday, I shall send this by her to announce that the project, mentioned in my letter of the 12th of May, is at an end. Mr A. does not encourage it, thinks it would answer no valuable...
8To James Madison from George Joy, 12 May 1815 (Madison Papers)
I attended yesterday at the Court of Admiralty rather to hear what could be said than from any doubt of the result of the trial of the Somerset, captured during the war, and recaptured after the period assigned for exemption by the treaty. The Proctor for the Captor, whom I happened to know, assured me that he had not been able to find a case in point; which I did not think it difficult to...
9To James Madison from George Joy, 14 April 1815 (Madison Papers)
My last under date the 25th Ult. finished with a remark on the disadvantage of a premature exposure of the instructions to the commissioners at Ghent, which has since been confirmed to me by Mr Clay, who, on my observing that I considered this a fault in our practice, did not hesitate to say (whatever his former opinion may have been) that he thought so too. It is one of the modes of...
10To James Madison from George Joy, 25 March 1815 (Madison Papers)
Of all the Events of this eventful period in which our lot is cast, that which has recently taken place is surely the most astonishing. To pretend not to be astounded at it would be an affectation of Stoicism beyond the Stupor of an American Indian. The Question of the Peace of Europe is as much afloat as ever; and how to speculate upon it, is really beyond all depth. The french military is...
11To James Madison from George Joy, 23 February 1815 (Madison Papers)
The delay of Mr: Welles by contrary winds enables me to add to my Letter of the 19th four other numbers of my Conciliator Vizt: Ns 5, 6, 7 and 9. If farther delay should occur I shall forward the remainder which are copying for that purpose. Always very respectfully Dr sir Your most obedt servt: RC and enclosures ( DLC ). RC docketed by JM . Joy enclosed manuscript copies of his “Conciliator”...
12To James Madison from George Joy, 19 February 1815 (Madison Papers)
I wrote you in great haste by Mr: Carroll, and cannot boast of much leisure on the present occasion, which was offered to me late last evening by a Gentleman intending to leave town tomorrow. I doubt if I shall be able to send you the Sequel of my Essays under the Signature of Conciliator having no Copy of the M.S. at hand; and the Editor of the Pamphleteer, who has lately been appointed to a...
13To James Madison from George Joy, 31 December 1814 (Madison Papers)
It is long since I had the honor of addressing you; much longer since I had that of receiving a Line from you; the last being of the date of Janry 1811. I have very sudden notice of Mr: Carroll’s arrival and Departure; and write this in the Coffee House with him, without any opportunity of referring to or enclosing any papers save the printed section of the Pamphleteer No 8. which, if the...
14To James Madison from George Joy, 21 September 1812 (Madison Papers)
Mr: Russell has sometimes said he wished I would give a lesson to some of my federal friends; and it has occurred to me, at the moment of despatching the within to take the liberty of passing it under your eye. No objection will be made to the publication of any part of it, as extract of a letter from an American in London to his friend in Boston. I have already written you by this Conveyance;...
15To James Madison from George Joy, 19 September 1812 (Madison Papers)
Mr. Maury has transmitted to Monroe M.S. copy of a peice that I had the good fortune to get into the Times of the 24th. Ult. I am not advised of his having had an opportunity of sending the enclosed rejoinder to a note of the Editor thereon which however he has refused to insert from, among other things, “the absolute want of room for new correspondents when the Journal cannot afford space...
16To James Madison from George Joy, 25 July 1812 (Madison Papers)
Mr. Russell being still absent; and having, in addition to the anxiety expressed in my last, a desire to know the operation of the late news from America on this Government, I obtained on Thursday an appointment to meet Lord Sidmouth yesterday morning, when I spent about an hour with him. In conformity with the mode, which I took the liberty to suggest to you some years ago, & which I have not...
17To James Madison from George Joy, 17 July 1812 (Madison Papers)
Leaving Town for a few days I sent to Lord Sidmouth the letter of which I take the liberty to enclose copy herein. I returned on the 11th. Instant & found a card of Mr Russell subjoining a request in pencil that I would call on him on my return. My letters have been regularly sent me; but of this card I knew nothing though it had lain a week at my lodgings and on calling I found he had left...
18To James Madison from George Joy, 23 June 1812 (Madison Papers)
I have yet received no appointment from Lord Sidmouth since I wrote you on the 20th. Instant. I may have been mistaking in his saying he would write me on Sunday but I am sure he said the appointment would not pass this day and it is now ½ past 3 O’Clock. I have sent him the letter of yesterday of which I enclose copy & which I presume reached his hands within the last hour. Having a letter...
19To James Madison from George Joy, 20 June 1812 (Madison Papers)
I have just parted with Lord Sidmouth who after the recognition of a meeting some years ago, and the repetition of the same friendly disposition to the United States and reference to the same constitutional analogies, customs &c which I remember to have communicated to you at the time or since, proceeded to assert his right to be considered a friend of the United States, by adding that he had...
20To James Madison from George Joy, 19 June 1812 (Madison Papers)
Though the debates of last evening exhibiting the pitiful and undignified manner in which Ministers are retreating from the Orders in Council, after the sordid principles upon which they have endeavoured to sustain them, give little encouragement to the hope of any beneficial consequences; I think it right to inform you that I have an appointment with Lord Sid-mouth at one O’Clock to morrow...
21To James Madison from George Joy, 13 June 1812 (Madison Papers)
I have just parted from Mr. Walker of Birmingham whom you will find mentioned in the Chronicle of this date as having received a certain intimation from Lord Castlereagh. Mr: Walker denies altogether the imperious Language of Lord C. which he will require to be contradicted in the Chronicle—he even constructed from his Language that a directly different result would follow. But on repetition...
22To James Madison from George Joy, 25 May 1812 (Madison Papers)
I had not long closed my letter of the 19th when I met Lieut: Brooks who informed me that he believed nothing had been done in France; that such was the common opinion but he could not speak from any authority, as Mr. Barlow was very close. He had indeed told him when he was coming away that he expected to make peace for all the world. It was said in haste and Brooks supposed with a view to...
23To James Madison from George Joy, 19 May 1812 (Madison Papers)
I wrote you on the 16th. instant, 1st. and 2nd. Via: Liverpool, to the care of Mr. Maury, 3rd. Via: Plymouth pr: Mr. Hawker, since then I have had no further intercourse with Lord Sidmouth, except sending him, in its naked form, extract of a letter from one of my brothers in Boston, expressive of the indignation felt there at the interference pr. Henry, while holding out friendly pretensions;...
24To James Madison from George Joy, 16 May 1812 (Madison Papers)
Mr. Maury has transmitted to you from time to time in M. S. and print the sheets of a work of which the commencement was enclosed in my letter to you of the 15th. of Feby. and I have given a discretionary authority to Mr. John Atkinson of New York to print it in America. I have since sent Mr. Maury M. S. copy of a smaller work entitled “A letter from a calm observer to a Noble Lord on the...
25To James Madison from George Joy, 24 February 1812 (Madison Papers)
I have now seen the letter from Mr. Percival which I mentioned to you in the Postscript to Dupl : of my Letter of the 22nd and the following is an Extract of it, written from memory to be sure, but in respect to the emphatical words literal, and in other respects substantially if not verbally correct. Viz: “That the perseverance in the measure of the orders in Council is not grounded in...
26To James Madison from George Joy, 22 February 1812 (Madison Papers)
I did not intend troubling you with triplica⟨tes⟩ of these sheets but finding that the Orbit is about sailing in ballast from Liverpool, and may probably arrive before the William & Henry for Boston, or the Friends for Norfolk; I send them herewith to Mr: Maury for that purpose. The Resolution of the Captn: of the Orbit to sail in ballast arises from the News just received, that the Goods...
27To James Madison from George Joy, 15 February 1812 (Madison Papers)
The inclosed will shew you the cause and the sole cause, of my continuing ’till this time in England. The magnitude of the object and the encouragement of some friends have induced this attempt, against my own opinion of any advantage being derived from it. And to the general discouragement, arising from the prejudices complained of therein, I have an addition in a note this moment received...
28To James Madison from George Joy, 8 January 1812 (Madison Papers)
If this should overtake, at Liverpool, my letter of yesterday, it will serve to correct an Error, which, as I did not read after writing it, escaped my notice. It passed unobserved also by the Copyist, who took it down as I wrote it, whom I asked, in my haste, if he had perceived any Mistake, and who assured me there was none. Instead of “ it would be repugnant,” I should have said “ my...
29To James Madison from George Joy, 7 January 1812 (Madison Papers)
As I am prevented proceeding to Liverpool to embark in this ship only by a doubt lately suggested by Mr: Maury whether she will proceed or not; (tho’ I think, (and so does Mr: Russell,) that no conciliatory measures on the part of this Government, are likely to detain her for a freight;) I am not prepared with such Duplicates, and other Communications, as I should otherwise have sent in her....
30To James Madison from George Joy, 14 November 1811 (Madison Papers)
The Constitution is at length arrived, and Mr: Russell informs me that she is to return to France before she will proceed to America; which will not probably be till some time in the Month of Janry. My Plan of embarking in her is by this means disconcerted; and the detail of Communication, that I was desirous of making personally, delayed. I am now strongly persuaded to defer my departure till...