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To John Jay from the Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Robert R. Livingston), 23 June 1782

From the Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Robert R. Livingston)

Philadelphia 23d. June 1782.

Dear Sir

The only letter, I have recieved from you, since that of the 6th. of February last, was a few lines which covered an account of the surrender of Fort St. Phillips,1 this success is important, as it not only weakens an Enemy, and operates against their future resources, but as, it gives reputation to the Arms of a Nation, that have our sincerest wishes for their prosperity, notwithstanding the little attention we have recieved from them— This letter goes by too hazardous a conveyance, to admit of my entering into many of those causes of complaint, which daily administer Food to distrusts and jealousies between Spain and the People of this Country.—2 The Havannah trade notwithstanding the important Advantages it affords to Spain, meets with the most unjustifiable interruptions, Vessels have been detained for Months together, in order to carry on the expeditions which Spain has formed, no adequate satisfactions being allowed for them, and then sent away without Convoy, by which means many of them have fallen into the hands of the Enemy, and where they did not, the expense and disappointment occasioned by their detention has thrown the greatest discouragements on the Trade—the Bahama Islands having surrendered to the Arms of Spain, if the copy of the capitulation published by Rivington may be depended upon, it is a counterpart to that of Pensacola, and the Troops will probably be sent to strengthen the Garrisons of New York and Charles town—3 These transactions, together with the delays and slights you meet with, cannot but have a mischievous effect, upon that harmony and confidence, which it is the mutual interests of Spain and America to cultivate with each other— It seems a little singular to this Country, that the United Provinces, who never gave us the least reason to suppose, that, they were well inclined towards us, should precede Spain in acknowledging our rights— But we are a plain People, Courts value themselves on refinements which are unknown to us— When a Sovereign calls us friends, we are simple enough to expect unequivocal proofs of his friendship.

Military operations have not yet commenced, so that ^the^ field affords us no intelligence, and the Cabinet seems to be closed by the determination of Congress not to permit Mr Morgan to wait upon them with General Carleton’s compliments— General Leslie, in consequence of the late alteration in the British System (together with the scarcity of Provisions in Charles town) proposed to General Greene a cessation of hostilities— I need hardly tell you ^that^ the proposal met with the contempt it deserved.4 Those who are unacquainted with our dispositions, would be surprized to hear, that our attachment to an Alliance with France, has gathered strength from their misfortune in the West Indies,5 and from the attempts of the Enemy to detach us from it.— Every Legislative Body which have met since, have unanimously declared their resolution to listen to no terms of accommodation, which contravenes its principles— Congress have it in contemplation to make some alteration in their foreign Arrangements, in order to lessen their expenses, but as nothing is yet determined on, I do not think it worth while to trouble you with a plan, which may not be carried into effect.6 I have the honor to be With great Respect and Esteem Your Excellency’s most obedient humble Servant

Robt R Livingston.

His Excellency John Jay

LS, quadruplicate, NNGL (EJ: 90538). Marked: “No. 10 / 4plicate”. Endorsed: “ . . . Recd 28 Sep 1782” and “no. 10 / quad.” LS, quintuplicate, NNC (EJ: 7937). Endorsed. Dft, NHi: R. R. Livingston (EJ: 824). Endorsed. Marked: “No. 10”. LbkCs, DNA: PCC, item 79, 1: 451–52 (EJ: 11366); DNA: PCC, item 118: 222–25 (EJ: 9925).

1See JJ to the Secretary of Foreign Affairs, 6 and 16 Feb. 1782. JJ had also written on 13 and 18 Feb., 14 Mar., 28 Apr., and 14 May, JJSP: 2: 682–83, 690–91, 692–93, 701–2, 747–77, 793.

2Notations on the LbkCs indicate that the first copy of this letter was sent “to Baltimore,” a duplicate delivered to La Luzerne, a triplicate sent by the Favorite from Baltimore, a fourth copy sent by the Washington, bound for Havana, and a fifth by the Queen of France. No reply to this letter has been found.

3The first article of the capitulation allowed the captured British soldiers to be sent armed to any British port except Jamaica. Eric Beerman, “The Last Battle of the American Revolution: Yorktown. No, the Bahamas! (The Spanish-American Expedition to Nassau in 1782),” The Americas 45, no. 1 (July 1988): 90. For Congress’s reaction to this decision, see the Secretary for Foreign Affairs to JJ, 6 July 1782, below.

4On the peace overtures attempted by Carleton, see “The Status of the Peacemaking on John Jay’s Arrival in Paris” (editorial note) on p. 3. For the exchange of correspondence between Leslie and Greene, see Richard Showman et al., eds., The Papers of General Nathanael Greene (13 vols.; Chapel Hill, N.C., 1976–2005), 11: 235, 247.

5A reference to the battle of the Saints.

6For RRL’s suggested alterations, which included appointment of Carmichael as secretary to BF, see “The Jay-Carmichael Relationship” (editorial note), JJSP, 2 description begins Elizabeth M. Nuxoll et al., eds., The Selected Papers of John Jay, Volume 2, 1780–82 (Charlottesville, Va., 2012) description ends : 171; and JCC description begins Worthington C. Ford et al., eds., Journals of the Continental Congress, 1774–1789 (34 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1904–37) description ends , 22, 255–60.

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