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From John Jay to the Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Robert R. Livingston), 25 June 1782

To the Secretary for Foreign Affairs (Robert R. Livingston)

Paris 25th. June 1782.

Dear Sir:

My letters from Madrid, and afterwards a few lines from Bordeaux,1 informed you of my being called to this place by a pressing letter from Dr. Franklin.

The slow manner of travelling in a Carriage through Spain, Mrs. Jay’s being taken with a Fever & Ague the Day we left Bordeaux, and the Post Horses at the different Stages having been engaged for the Count du Nord, who had left Paris with a great Retinue, preventing my arriving here until the Day before Yesterday.

After placing my Family in a Hotel, I immediately went out to Passy, and spent the Remainder of the afternoon in conversing with Doctor Franklin on the Subjects which had induced him to write for me. I found that he had then more Reason to think my Presence necessary than it seems to be at present.2

Yesterday we paid a Visit to the Count de Vergennes. He gave me a very friendly Reception, and entered pretty fully with us into the State of the negotiation. His answer to the british Minister appeared to me ably drawn. It breathes great Moderation, and yet is so general as to leave Room for such Demands as Circumstances, at the Time of the Treaty, may render convenient.3

There is Reason to believe that Mr. Fox and Lord Shelburne are not perfectly united,4 and that Rodney’s Success will repress the ardor of our Enemies, for an immediate Peace.5 On leaving the Count, he informed us that he was preparing Dispatches for America, and that our Letters, if sent to him Tomorrow Morning, might go by the same opportunity. This short notice, together with the Interruptions I meet with every moment, obliged me to be less particular than I could wish, but as Doctor Franklin also writes by this Conveyance, you will doubtless receive from him full Intelligence on these Subjects.6

My last Letters also informed You that the Court of Spain had Commissioned the Count de Yranda,7 their Ambassador here to continue with me the Negotiation for a Treaty with our Country. I have not yet seen him, and Doctor Franklin concurs with me in opinion that it is more expedient to open this Business by a Letter than by a Visit. I wrote him the following Letter this morning.

[Here JJ embedded his letter to Aranda, 25 June 1782, below]

Mr. Adams can not leave Amsterdam at present, and I hear that Mr. Laurens thinks of returning soon to America, so that I apprehend Doctor Franklin and myself will be left to manage at least the skirmishing Business, if I may so call it, of our Commission, without the Benefit of their Counsel and Assistance. You know what I think and feel on this Subject, and I wish things were so circumstanced as to admit of my being indulged.

You may rely on my writing often, very often— My Letters will now have fairer play, and you will find that I have not ceased to consider Amusement and Rest as secondary Objects to those of Business.

I shall endeavor to get Lodgings as near to Doctor Franklin as I can— He is in perfect good Health, and his Mind appears more vigorous than that of any Man of his age I have known— He certainly is a valuable Minister, and an agreeable Companion.

The Count d’Artois and Duke de Bourbon are soon to set out for Gibraltar. The Siege of that place will be honored with the presence of several Princes, and therefore the Issue of it (according to the prevailing modes of thinking) becomes in a more particular manner interesting. The Duke de Crillon is sanguine—he told me that in his Opinion, Gibraltar was far more pregnable than Mahon. It is possible that Fortune may again smile upon him. I am, Dear Sir, &c.,

John Jay8

LbkCs, DNA: PCC, item 110, 2: 135–39 (EJ: 4226); NNC: JJ Lbk. 1; CSmH (EJ: 3475).

1See JJ to the Secretary for Foreign Affairs, 14 May, and JJ to RRL, 14 June 1782, JJSP, 2 description begins Elizabeth M. Nuxoll et al., eds., The Selected Papers of John Jay, Volume 2, 1780–82 (Charlottesville, Va., 2012) description ends : 799–800.

2See JJ’s Diary of 23–28 June 1782 above.

3See Giunta, Emerging Nation description begins Mary A. Giunta et al., eds., The Emerging Nation: A Documentary History of the Foreign Relations of the United States under the Articles of Confederation, 1780–1789 (3 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1996) description ends , 1: 432–33; and PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (40 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 37: 343 and n.

4On Fox and Shelburne’s positions, see “The Status of the Peacemaking on John Jay’s Arrival in Paris” (editorial note) on pp. 2–4.

5On Rodney’s victory at the battle of the Saints, see Secretary for Foreign Affairs to JJ, 8 Mar. 1782, and note 2, JJSP, 2 description begins Elizabeth M. Nuxoll et al., eds., The Selected Papers of John Jay, Volume 2, 1780–82 (Charlottesville, Va., 2012) description ends : 699.

6See PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (40 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 37: 535–39.

7That is, the count d’Aranda. Copiest’s error. It is misspelled in the marginal notes but corrected to d’Aranda in the text of the NNC: JJ Lbk. 1 transcription, and rendered correctly in the CSmH copy.

8Congress received this letter, carried by either L’Aigle or Gloire, by 24 Sept. 1782. See LDC description begins Paul H. Smith et al., eds., Letters of Delegates to the Continental Congress, 1774–1789 (26 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1976–98) description ends , 19: 204.

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