James Madison Papers
Documents filtered by: Recipient="Monroe, James"
sorted by: date (descending)
Permanent link for this document:
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/04-04-02-0560

From James Madison to James Monroe, 16 November 1827

To James Monroe

Montpellier Novr: 16. 1827

Dear Sir

Yours of the 2d. postmarked the 6th. of November came duly to hand. I return the letters and papers inclosed in it. The fact stated to Mr. Ringold by Genl. Jessup, does not concern only or principally the question between Genl. Jackson & Mr. Southard. It belongs to the History of the Campaign and of the Administration; and as such ought to be verified & preserved. The General must of course have been ignorant of it when he said in his letter to the Secretary of War, of December 16. (see Latour’s Historical Memoir p. 66) “We have no arms here &c.” Again in his letter to the same of January 19.1 (see Appendix to the Memoir No. XXXII) he says “I am more & more satisfied in the belief that had the arms reached us which were destined for us, the whole of the British Army in this quarter would before this time have been captured or destroyed” from which it is to be inferred that there was no deficiency of men for the purpose. Is it understood that the General has yet become acquainted with the fact? If he has, his character is much mistaken if he does not promptly & publickly correct the injustice unconsciously committed by him.

The tenor of the letter of July 18. 1814, is still unrecognized by my memory. I suspect it was written in consequence of a conversation with me, without being read by me; and may therefore express a mixture of the Secretary’s ideas with mine. My remark alluded to in the letter favours the conjecture. The case stated by Genl. Jackson is a very strong one; but does not altogether preclude questions as to the degree of immediate urgency; as to the distinction between the authority of a Military Officer, & that of the National Executive; nor, if the invading act be stamped with the character of war, between the Executive & Legislative authority. The only case in which the Executive can enter on a war undeclared by Congress is when a State of war has been actually produced by the conduct of another Power. Such a case was the war with Tripoli during the Administration of Mr. Jefferson.

If you possess a copy of the Prohibitory letter of Ocr  2 1814. let me, if you please have a copy from it.

I thank you for your kind intention, to glance in a letter to Mr. Mercer at the affinity of my situation to yours. It is indeed made stronger than yours, by what has been drawn into the Newspapers. You may have noticed a second public exhibition of me, notwithstanding the aversion to it previously & publickly expressed, and notwithstanding the assurances of the friend of Mr. Ritchie, (whom you will guess) that no report of our conversation would be made to the press.3 It was even intimated in the outset that the enquiry would not have been made, if the publication from myself in the Lynchburg paper had not been unknown at the time to Mr. R. My remarks as published have nevertheless the aspect of an original disclosure, made on a special application, and become subservient to observations of a party hue. I regretted the occurrence the more, as I had refused to another Editor, any direct & specific authority to contradict the Report concerning the authorship of the “Farmer’s letters,”4 regarding a compliance with such interrogatories from Printers, as a bad precedent, and preferring the spontaneous & incidental mode used in the communication to the Lynchburg Press. I had the more reason to be dissatisfied with the unexpected paragraph in the Enquirer, because, in saying that I expressed astonishment at being regarded as the Writer of those papers, the reason assigned for it was omitted, viz that the reference in them to my name, would on that supposition have been evidently indelicate. With that omission my astonishment may be ascribed to the vanity of regarding the papers as unworthy of my superior pen; or perhaps to a known disapprobation of the main object of them, that of bringing about a meeting of deputies at Richmond, of which I had never spoken a syllable. I have thought it better however to bear in silence what has passed, than risk a further entanglement with Newspapers. Yours as ever

James Madison

RC (ViFreJM); FC (DLC). RC docketed by Monroe. FC in Dolley Madison’s hand, with no complimentary close or signature.

1A. Lacarriere Latour, Historical Memoir of the War in West Florida and Louisiana in 1814–15: With an Atlas, trans. H. P. Nugent (Philadelphia, 1816; Shaw and Shoemaker description begins R. R. Shaw and R. H. Shoemaker, comps., American Bibliography: A Preliminary Checklist for 1801–1819 (22 vols.; New York, 1958–66). description ends 38034). Andrew Jackson’s 16 December 1814 letter to Monroe is published in John Spencer Bassett, ed., Correspondence of Andrew Jackson (7 vols.; Washington, D.C., 1926–35), 2:115–16. Jackson’s 19 January 1815 letter to Monroe appears in Smith et al., Papers of Andrew Jackson, 3:250–51.

2Left blank in RC. JM referred to James Monroe to Jackson, 21 Oct. 1814, which directed Jackson, on JM’s orders, to “take no measures [against Pensacola], which would involve this Government in a contest with Spain” (Smith et al., Papers of Andrew Jackson, 3:170–71).

3JM referred to a notice published in the Richmond Enquirer, 2 Nov. 1827: “We requested a friend to wait upon Mr. Madison, for the purpose of understanding from him directly, whether he could possibly have been the Author of the Essays, sighed [sic] ‘A Farmer.’ Our friend writes us, that ‘he promptly denied being the Author of them, and expressed great astonishment, that they were imputed to him.’ Yet, these who were in a situation to know the fact, saw this absurd rumor circulate without contradiction—willing to avail themselves of the advantage, which Mr. M’s great name was expected to render to their cause.

“Our Correspondent further informs us, that Mr. M. declared as we have all along understood, ‘that he did not wish to mingle in the party strife of the day, and therefore avoided expressing opinions of that character; but upon other subjects, and abstract political principles, he did not wish to wrap himself up in mystery.’ This information is given for the benefit of the Administration Party, who we understand, have it in contemplation to bolster up their sinking cause by running Mr. Madison on their Electoral Ticket. They may as well save themselves the trouble—After this disclosure, such a measure would be a mere finesse.”

4JM referred to his correspondence with Duff Green; see Green to JM, 15 Oct. 1827, and JM to Green, 18 Oct. 1827.

Index Entries