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From John Jay to Benjamin Franklin, 17 July 1780

To Benjamin Franklin

Madrid 17 July 1780

Dr. Sir

I have been honored with ^had the Pleasure of recg^ yours Favors of the 13th & 25th: June last1 and am greatly obliged by the Communications they make. I refer ^after having recd part of the sum^

after having recd part of the Money lodged with Marquis DYranda I sent to same him a second Time for another part not thinking it necessary ^chusing^ to recieve the whole at once & intending to leave in his Hand the Ballance due to you— I recd for answer that I might recieve the whole but not a Part—there was no Choice and I recd. it accordingly— The Remittances I expected from Congress not arriving ^have not arrived^, ^have^ written to them on the Subject,2 and in the mean Time ^am now^ feed[in]g on your Ballance choosing rather to do this than humiliate my Constituents by running them in Debt for my Bread here—

The Papers enclosed with this will make known to you the exact State of our Affairs here ^at this Court^— I have been permitted to ^already to^ ^to^ accept of the ^at dif^ Bills drawn to the amt. of ^between^ ten & twelve Thousand Dollars and as ^as the Court & particularly the^ Count DFlorida Blanca seems well disposed towards ^us^ I hope this disagreable ^unpleasant^ Measure will terminate well— These Papers shd have been sent you before but I have been long waiting for Count Montmorins Courier to ^by^ whom I wd. rather transmit them than the by the Post for Reasons wh. you will be at no Loss to conjecture—3

From these Papers you will also ^naturally^ conclude that it is very far from being in my Power to afford Mr. Ross the Aid you mentioned in your Letter— On the Contrary I find myself constrained to request the Favor of you to lodge ^here^ for Mr Carmichael & myself a further Credit to enable us to receive that Resid what may be due to me on Acct of our Salaries. ^We shall otherwise be very soon in a very disagreable Situation^ I cannot think of endeavoring to take up Money from Individuals ^wd. not be eligible or reputable^ for many Reasons And it wd. not be prudent to trouble Govt. already ^a little^ sore abt the Bills with further Requisitions at present.

To you therefore I must recur, and that ^I am also obliged to make this Request^ without being able to give you other assurances of ^respecting the Time of^ Repaymt. than that the proceeds of the first Remitt[an]ce. I may recieve shall be applied to that in Preference to every other Purpose. I am I cannot say whether any will be ^I am have recd no Information on this Subject since I left America^ and my principal Reason ^for expectg Rem them Remittances^ (next to the Faith of Congress) arises from the Facility with which they ^I cannot however think the Time will be very distant as Remittances^ may now make them in Bills ^be made in^ Bills of Exchange— But shd ^if^ these Expectations fail it would in my opinion be more decent for ^I shd. be decieved^ ^& if the servants of^ Congress to ^here^ must live a while on the Credit they may ^seek &^ find with others, I think it wd. be more decent to recur to their Ally than to others. France I know has ^already^ done great things for ^us^ and made glori ^is still making^ glorious Exertions. I shall love the Nation as long as I live, & shall I am also sensible of your Difficulties ^& regret them^ & am ^tho I am^ happy in reflecting that they since they must exist, they have fallen into the Hands of one whose abilities & Influence enable him to sustain and surmount them—^& at^ a Court wh[ich] does ^not^ appear inclined to do things by Halves.

I shd. be much surprized at the Treatment the your Letters I sent to Nantz have met with, had ^I^ not experienced too many strange things to be much surprized at any—It gives me pain to infer from yr Letter A certain Gentlemans Reserve with Respect to you, that perfect & Cordial Confidence does not exist between you— The Papers I have [illegible]4

It is necessary I should ^you shd. be^ inform^d^ you that the Papers enclosed with this are probably known ^known to Count Montmorin & therefore are probably no Secrets^ to the french ^his^ Court. I am on confid ^exceedingly^ good Terms with ^the^ Count Montmorin whom I esteem as a Man of abilities and am pleased with as a Gentleman a Friend to our Country— As France had taken interested herself so deeply in our Country & had the ^our^ Cause ^had^ done us such essential Benefits ^& had been requested to interpose her friendly offices for us here^ I could ^not^ think of withholding from him [illegible] full ^him all the^ Confidence ^which these considerations dictate^ especially as the Resolutions of Congress ^respecting their Legation here^ breathed that Spirit, and as no personal objections forbid it. To carry on ^have conducted^ the negociation with slyness & Finesse & ^unnecessary secrecy, & equivocating^ cunning was irreconciable with my Principles of Action & with every Idea I have of wisdom & Policy—as ^in a word^ France and America were ^are & I hope will always be^ Allies & It is the Duty of each Party to cultivate mutual Confidence & Cordiality— For my own Part while their Conduct continues as it fair ^firm^ and friendly, I shall not only remain ^strongly^ attached to their Interest & grateful for their Benefit.5 but [illegible]

Mrs. Jay is much pleased with ^& thanks you for^ the print you ^was so kind as to^ send her—it is a striking Likeness—the I find that in France great Men have like their Predecessors of old have their Bards [illegible]—6 Your Strictures are very Justice but ^tho a little Severe^ while there are ^young^ Telemachus’s & ^handsome^ ^fascinating^ Calypsos in the World ^there will be^ Fancies & pens & Hearts will ^sometimes^ run riot, in spite of the few Mentors now & then to be met with on it— [illegible]

Your Danish Correspondent was very civil an as well as very much embarrassed— I am pleased with both Circumstances—they indicate more Caution in future—but I fear the present case will continue without Remedy— I recieve no Letters but what have passed thro the Fire once and often twice—and that is not the Worst of it, for I am sure that some have been suppressed— I wish therefore that such as you may favor me be with, be sent either by the Courier or under Cover to some Person here some the House of Druillet Cabarrus or ^in^ some other ^way^ that you may have Reason to confide in—

I am Dear Sir with very sincere Regard your Friend & ^most obt^ Servt

P.S. I had almost forgotten to tell you that Mrs. Jay had a Daughter born the ninth Inst and that They are both well—benevolent Minds enjoy the Events grateful ^to^ others & therefore I give you this ^I can not therefore forbear telling you this^ little piece of news—

Dft, NNC (EJ: 7795); LbkC, DLC: Franklin (EJ: 10256); E, NN: Bancroft (EJ: 2800). Enclosures as listed in note 3, below.

1See BF to JJ, 13 June, above; and 25 June 1780, LS, NNC (EJ: 5585); LbkC, DLC: Franklin (EJ: 10255); PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (39 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 32: 592, in which BF had asked JJ’s assistance in covering sums owed to John Ross for goods for the army.

3The enclosures were Floridablanca to JJ, 24 Feb., 9 Mar., 7 and 20 June; JJ to Floridablanca, 6 Mar., 25 and 29 Apr., 19 and 22 June; Vergennes to JJ, 13 Mar.; and JJ to Vergennes, 9 May, all above; and part of Sir John Dalrymple’s historical anecdote on “A Project of Lord Rochford to Prevent the War,” on which see JJ to the President of Congress, 26 May, above, note 11. LbkCs of all these texts accompany the LbkC of this text in DLC: Franklin.

4Here JJ excised seven lines of text that are not legible. This paragraph is probably in reference to John Adams, who BF stated had not informed him of his mission. See BF to Carmichael, 31 Mar.–7 Apr. and the reply of 22–27 Apr. 1780, PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (39 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 32: 186, 288–89, BF to JJ, 13 June, above.

5The excised passage that follows appears in the LbkC as “but Shall endeavour to transmit the same Impressions to my Posterity.” Montmorin was instrumental in forwarding this letter and other papers. See JJ to Carmichael and to Montmorin, both 18 July, Dfts, NNC (EJ: 7654, 7983, 90291); and Montmorin to JJ, 18 July, AL, NNC (EJ: 90364). In his letter of 31 July (LS, PPAmP [EJ: 2572]; PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (39 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 33: 138), BF acknowledged receiving the materials “in good Order.”

6The illegible passage excised from the Dft here, possibly at a later date, appears in the LbkC as follows: “Yours seem to have mounted high mettled Pegasus, and to have been inspired (if Bryden’s Doctrine be right) and seem to have been by electrised muses.” On SLJ’s request for a print of BF, see JJ to BF, 27 Apr., and BF to JJ, 13 June, above. In a letter to BF of 12 Aug., Carmichael reported that the print had “served to excite Curiosity” and asked that William Temple Franklin send him several copies. PBF description begins William B. Willcox et al., eds., The Papers of Benjamin Franklin (39 vols. to date; New Haven, Conn., 1959–) description ends , 33: 188.

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