James Madison Papers
Documents filtered by: Author="Trist, Nicholas P." AND Period="post-Madison Presidency"
sorted by: editorial placement
Permanent link for this document:
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Madison/04-04-02-0266

To James Madison from Nicholas P. Trist, 1 February 1827

From Nicholas P. Trist

Charlottesville Feby. 1. ’27.

Dear Sir

I have determined to send you also a No of the Westminster, containing another article on gymnastics1 which tends to convey an idea of the importance which the subject had, at that date, already acquired in England.

In my note of yesterday evening, I forgot to mention, as it had been my intention to do, that several circumstances have reduced to an almost certainty in my mind the fixed design of Mr Key to leave us. This would, in my opinion, be a very serious loss. Perhaps it may be averted by a letter from you as an individual, before you officially reply to the resignation that will probably be sent in within the time limited by the resoln. of the Bd. I have become better acquainted with Mr K. latterly than I was before: and, altho’ he certainly has some childish defects of disposition, I should deplore his loss exceedingly. I think he has more of what may be termed a university cast of mind—such a tone as might be expected from a thorough Cambridge education—than any of them. To our institution this quality is a very valuable one. But it is not only with reference to him that I should regret his departure, but with a view also to his successor. Who is he to be? One of the american corps? Oh! the thought is distressing beyond measure. The older I get, and the more I compare, the more convinced I become that our American science consists in a great measure of what the English term “humbug.” Take for instance West-point. This school, for the mathematical sciences is confessedly the first in the Union: was so, in my day. Now, I am as satisfied as I am of my own existence, that there is no sort of comparison between any of the Professors there, & Key & Bonnycastle. A few more! and I will preface them with the declaration that I believe these gentlemen perfectly candid on the subject of american Science & far more disposed to praise than to censure. Some time ago, there was published by the Harvard professor “Cambridge course of Physics,”2 a work which is considered there (I have no doubt, from the reputation of the author) as perfection itself. Expecting that it wd. redound to the credit of the author, Mr Coolidge desired me to request Mr Bonnycastle to review it for the North american. This he has not done; but he spoke to me of it during the examination, in very unfavorable terms. Again, Great expectations were raised by the greek & English lexicon,3 to which Pickering, “a first rate greek scholar” in the estimation of our scholars, a man who could compare with those of England, had been devoting many years of his leisure. It at length appeared, & did not disappoint expectation: the edition, I was told the other day, is exhausted. But, what was Mr Long’s opinion? Previous to the appearance of this, there had appeared a similar work in England, by Jones.4 This Mr Jefferson & Mr Long both thought by no means well of. Mr L. considered it, as well as I recollect, a poor thing. Well: he procured Pickering; carefully examined it, and, at the time he had got through reading two letters of it, his disappointment was so great that he recommended Jones in preference, at a far greater price. Again, they are impressed at Harvard that they print with extreme correctness. Among other books, they have published a little school book, Buttmann’s Greek grammar,5 now, Mr Key told me not long since that there was not a page of it which did not contain several errors.

All this, and fifty other instances, have confirmed me in the belief of Mr Jefferson on the subject of the absolute necessity of importing professors: and I should view with a pang the appointment of any of our native professors, as sealing the doom of this noble institution, and consigning it to native mediocrity—not of genius (of that I believe that america & particularly Virginia, possesses perhaps more than an equal share) but of Knowledge. Once more, excuse all this zealous impertinence; and believe me with affectionate gratitude, yrs

N. P. Trist

In the event of Mr K.’s resignation, there is a likelihood, I think, of Mr Bonnycastle’s coveting the place. Now, it would be far more difficult to fill Mr B’s present place as he fills it, than to find a competent successor to Mr K.

RC (ViHi: Nicholas P. Trist Album Book). Cover docketed by JM.

1Trist here referenced the review of two works on gymnastics in the London Westminster Review (3 [1825]: 277–80) that he had also mentioned in his Memorandum on the University of Virginia, ante–14 Dec. 1826 (and see n. 7 there).

2Beginning in 1818, the Hollis Professor of Natural Philosophy and Mathematics at Harvard College, John Farrar, translated and published a number of French works on optics, plane and spherical trigonometry, algebra, electricity, and mechanics. The volume referred to here might have been An Elementary Treatise on Mechanics, Comprehending the Doctrine of Equilibrium and Motion, as Applied to Solids and Fluids […] (Cambridge, Mass., 1825; Shoemaker description begins Richard H. Shoemaker, comp., A Checklist of American Imprints for 1820–1829 (11 vols.; New York, 1964–72). description ends 20489).

3John Pickering and Daniel Oliver, eds. and trans., The Greek Lexicon of Schrevelius (Boston, 1826; Shoemaker description begins Richard H. Shoemaker, comp., A Checklist of American Imprints for 1820–1829 (11 vols.; New York, 1964–72). description ends 26022). Pickering (1777–1846), a graduate of Harvard College, was a Boston lawyer, city solicitor, and state politician known primarily for his linguistic studies.

4John Jones, A Greek and English Lexicon, in Which Are Explained All the Words Used by the Best Greek Writers of Prose and Verse […] (London, 1823).

5Philip Buttmann, Greek Grammar, Translated from the German of Philip Buttmann, trans. Edward Everett (Boston, 1822; Shoemaker description begins Richard H. Shoemaker, comp., A Checklist of American Imprints for 1820–1829 (11 vols.; New York, 1964–72). description ends 8229).

Index Entries