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From John Jay to William Wilberforce, 8 November 1809

To William Wilberforce

Bedford—WChester County—State of New York 8 Nov. 1809

Dear Sir

On the 28 ult. I recd. your Letter of the 1st. of Augt. last, and I thank you for it, and for the Pamphlets enclosed with it.—1

It was not without Surprize and Regret that I percieved from it, that my Letter to you of the 14 April 1806,2 in answer to your’s of the 7 Novr. 1805,3 had never come to your hands; and it appeared to me the more singular, as a Duplicate was also sent. As they have been forwarded by my Son at New York, I wrote to him to inform me, whether he could recollect by what Vessels they had been sent. His answer is in these words vizt.

“I have just recd. your Letter of the 30 Octr.—4 I am sorry that Mr. Wilberforce’s Letters have miscarried. I recollect putting one of them into the ^Letter^ bag of a Ship for Liverpool; but I do not remember her name. I think, but I am less certain, that I also put the other letter myself into the Letter bag of another Ship. both these bags were as usual hung up within the Bar of the Tontine Coffee house for the Reception of Letters. It is very probable that the Vessels which carried them, have either been taken by the French, or (what is very common) robbed of their Letters by some English cruizer.—”5

Fortunately I preserved a Copy, and enclose one—

I am well persuaded that your Sentiments relative to me, are such as you describe; and I assure you that mine relative to you, correspond with them.

The Patrons of the abolition act, and of the African Institution certainly do Honor,6 and will probably do more than ordinary Good to Great Britain; against whom Complaints have ascended both from Asia and Africa. It is pleasing to behold a nation assiduously cultivating the arts of Peace and Humanity in the midst of war; and while strenuously fighting for their all, kindly extending the Blessings of Christianity and civilization to distant countries.—

That your and our Governments should co-operate in rendering their respective Laws against the Slave Trade effectual, is to me very desirable, and I believe that a Convention for the Purpose, would be approved by all, who think and feel as you and I do respecting that base and cruel Traffic. Whether the Times are propitious to such a Convention, is another Question. Negotiations are said to be pending between our Governmt. and Mr. Jackson. I can discern no objection to his being instructed to propose such a measure. They who offer to do what is fit and right to be done, cannot be Losers by it. I can do but little—that little shall be done.

The information you give me respecting your Family, and your friendly Inquiry concerning mine, gratify me not a little. I rejoice that while Perturbation reigns abroad, you enjoy in Tranquillity at Home, the Comforts mentioned in the 128 Psalm.—7

In my Family there have been, since the Date of my last Letter, some painful and some pleasing Events. Death has deprived my eldest Daughter of an excellent Husband, and of the only two Children which she had— On the other hand, my Son has gradually recovered his health, and has married an amiable young Lady, who about a Year ago brought him a Son.8 My other Children are well and doing well.—

As to myself—sickness confined me to the house last winter; and I am still more of an Invalid than a Convalescent. However difficult the Task, such visitations should be recd. and borne with grateful, as well as patient Resignation.

The observation you cite from Hooker9 is very just, and so are your Remarks on this turbulent & transitory Scene. To see things as they are— to estimate them aright— and to act accordingly, is to be wise— But you know my dear Sir! that most men, in order to become wise, have much to unlearn as well as to learn— much to undo as well as to do. The Israelites had little comfort in Egypt, and yet they were not very anxious to go to the promised Land. Figuratively speaking, we are all at this Day in Egypt, and a Prince worse than Pharaoh reigns in it. Altho the Prophet “like unto Moses” offers to deliver from Bondage, and invites us to prepare and be ready to go with him, under divine Guidance and Protection, to the promised Land; yet great is the number who prefer remaining in Slavery, and dying in Egypt.

If this letter should reach you, be so good as to let me know it, & name some person in London, to whose Care I may transmit future ones for You—With the best wishes for your health & Happiness and with real Esteem and Regard I am Dr Sir Your faithful & obt. Servt

J. J.

William Wilberforce Esqr

C, NNC (EJ: 09281). WJ, 2: 318–20; HPJ, 4: 324–26.

4JJ to PAJ, 30 Oct. 1809, not found.

5PAJ to JJ, 8 Nov. 1809, Dft, NNC (EJ: 06145).

6For the abolition of the slave trade in Britain and the formation of the African Institution, see Wilberforce to JJ, 1 Aug. 1809, and notes 2 and 3, above.

7Psalm 128 reads:

Blessed are all who fear the lord, that walketh in his ways.

For thou shalt eat the labour of thine hands; happy shalt thou be, and it shall be well with thee.

Thy wife shall be as a fruitful vine by the sides of thine house; thy children like olive plants round about thy table.

Behold, that thus shall the man be blessed that feareth the Lord.

The lord shall bless thee out of Zion; and thou shalt see the good of Jerusalem all the days of thy life.

Yea, thou shalt see thy children’s children, and peace upon Israel.

8For the hardships confronting the family of MJB, see JJ to Wilberforce, 14 Apr. 1806, note 8; and JJ to PJM, 18 Apr. 1809, both above. PAJ and Mary Rutherfurd Clarkson celebrated the birth of their son John Clarkson Jay on 11 Sept. 1808.

9Anglican theologian Richard Hooker.

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